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Notes on the safety group & secondary

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Am I the only one that wants to see more of Josh Norman. I really think that this kid can ball if he plays within the system and knows his assignments?

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What I think ends up our common defensive backfield..

 

CB1 White

CB2 Cason

NB Benwikere/Dockery

FS DeCoud

SS Lester

 

*flex in Boston for passing downs, Bene comes in for Cason on some base packages

*Harper plays early downs, supports run d

 

 

 

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Those that think low of Harper will be surprised. I'm pretty sure our Genius defensive coaches know how to get the most out of him.

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Those that think low of Harper will be surprised. I'm pretty sure our Genius defensive coaches know how to get the most out of him.

 

They can do a lot but they can't make people younger or faster. They couldn't get anything out of Nakamura.

 

I share the opinion that DeCoud will be a star and Harper will be a dud.

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They can do a lot but they can't make people younger or faster. They couldn't get anything out of Nakamura.

I share the opinion that DeCoud will be a star and Harper will be a dud.


SS don't need to be young or fast. Players can play well into their thirties as safteys. The guy will be good to have on running downs

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Unless Norman had an epiphany this off-season, I too am ready to cut bait.  Rooted hard for the kid but each position is starting to get a little crowded as Gettleman brings in competition.

At least we afforded him the opportunity to get his teeth fixed.

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Harper is still a solid player if used correctly.  Very useful in the redzone against tight ends and of course is solid in the box.  I expect somewhat of a rotation at the safety position this year. 

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CB-White
CB-Cason
Nickel-Godfrey
FS-Decoud
SS-Harper
That'll probably be our opening day secondary IMO
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I'm really hoping Harper doesn't make the team, honestly.  I'm still having a hard time accepting the fact that he's on our roster.  Unfortunately I think it's probably going to be Harper and DeCoud by default at S.  Boston will be the top backup.  Jones's spot is probably safe because he's so excellent on special teams.  Lester is probably the odd man out. 

 

Corner back is anybody's guess outside of Cason manning LCB.  Melvin White could either end up starting or getting cut.  Godfrey is probably safe due to position flexibility.  Benwikere is probably safe since we traded up to draft him. 

 

 

If I had to spitball it right now I'd say:

 

Starters:

 

FS- DeCoud 

SS - Harper

LCB - Cason

RCB - Godfrey (switch inside to nickel)

 

Backups:

 

FS- Colin Jones

SS - Tre Boston

Nickle outside - Benwikere

CB - Benwikere, Melvin White, Josh Thomas?, Josh Norman?, Dockery

 

I don't expect both Joshes to make the team.  They'll essentially be competing for the final spot.  Dockery is probably in good shape because of special teams.

 

 

 

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Am I the only one that wants to see more of Josh Norman. I really think that this kid can ball if he plays within the system and knows his assignments?


That's a big ass if, homie. If you're content to use 3 ints in a FUGGING practice as your calling card, I don't think you have what it takes to succeed in the NFL. Either that, or he needs to sit at the end of a conveyor belt with humble pies falling into his mouth over and over and over again

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Lester is a solid backup. He's not going to get cut over Colin Jones

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Jones is a solid backup and is much better on special teams.  Lester could absolutely get cut.  

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That's a big ass if, homie. If you're content to use 3 ints in a FUGGING practice as your calling card, I don't think you have what it takes to succeed in the NFL. Either that, or he needs to sit at the end of a conveyor belt with humble pies falling into his mouth over and over and over again

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Yeah it is a big if, but one I think that he can overcome. I like this kid and would like to see him on the field a bit more before writing him off...

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Everyone sleeping on Dockery & shouldn't be. Probably the best tackling Corner we have & did pretty well in coverage. Still has a lot to learn & the injury definitely is a set back, but could easily see him earning a spot.

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I'm just hoping that Cason balls out and then signs a long term deal with us.

 

He was already one of my all time favorite players, so him coming to the Panthers was big for me, just hoping he's here for years to come

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Jones is a solid backup and is much better on special teams.  Lester could absolutely get cut.  

 

Nothing says we can't have 5 safeties on the roster. Given Jones' spot on special teams (and that he might be the best equipped to chase Brandin Cooks down twice a year), I think we'll roll with Harper, DeCoud, Lester, Boston, and Jones. 

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My starting DBs are..

White, Tre Boston, Lester, Cason.

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Unless he absolutely falls flat and regresses during camp, Lester isn't getting cut.
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I can't wait to see them guys!!!! That's who I want to see the most of. Our defense is going to be much more nastier than last year. Huge UPGRADE!!!!

Harper and Decoud are upgrades over Mitchell and Mikell IMO. Seriously. Two pro bowlers. Harper is old and slow but the man brings vet leadership and nastiness. A much better SS than Mikell. I expect 4 sacks from the man this season. Decoud's coverage is beyond Mitchell. A ball hawker.

Adding Cason pumped me up! Wanted him last year, finally got it now. He's the best legitimate corner we have since Gamble. I think he can bring that production like what Gamble left.

Bene will be the no3 corner by the end of the day. Godfrey won't be able to stay with Bene.

Love Lester, Tre, and White!!!

Hate the the Joshes: Norman and Thomas. Both need to be cut instantly!!!

Don't like Dockery.

I believe we'll add another vet after cuts: Terrell Thomas or Samuels.

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Nothing says we can't have 5 safeties on the roster. Given Jones' spot on special teams (and that he might be the best equipped to chase Brandin Cooks down twice a year), I think we'll roll with Harper, DeCoud, Lester, Boston, and Jones. 

 

It's possible, but I'm thinking Godfrey's position flexibility might prohibit it.  

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Harper is still a solid player if used correctly. Very useful in the redzone against tight ends and of course is solid in the box. I expect somewhat of a rotation at the safety position this year.

Agreed I don't understand why everyone is so disgruntled with him. He isn't being asked to play Free Safety. He should be serviceable.

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CB1- Antoine Cason
CB2- Melvin White
Nickel- Godfrey/Bene (rotation)
FS- Decoud
SS- Harper/Lester (rotation)

Backups
CB
-Dockery
-Not yet on team

SS/FS
- Boston
- Jones
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I read this article on Cason from ESPN.  I have a lot of faith that he will start and actually play well with our front 7. If he doesn't start  then he will be a key rotational CB that will still see a lot more playing time compare to his stint in Arizona. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Cason the starting CB in San Diego when Rivera was the Defensive Coordinator on the number one defense? Rivera has spent years with Cason and obviously knows how to use him. 

 

I'm betting now that Cason will end up having a bounceback season and hit the FA market signing a nice multi year contract with another team.

 

 

Now whats all this talk of Lester being cut? I'm sorry but I just don't see it. He proved himself as a UDFA last year and he saw a lot of time on the field. I believe Jones could be the odd man out. Yes he is a special teams ace but could Boston replace him? 

 

This is how I see our secondary working out

 

Starting CBs: Cason, White

Nickelback: Godfrey (I really think Godfrey could end up shining as a CB and become a starter)

Dime: Benwikere ( Probably rotate in on some nickle packages.)

Dockery  will be back up. I really want  Norman to step up and be that guy but I don't think he has what it takes. Still crazier things have happened so I will say he could have a small chance of making the team. Thomas and Dockery will probably end up as the back up CB but Thomas has a good chance of beating out Dockery but I'm going to bet on Dockery beating him out this year.

 

FS: Decoud

SS:Harper

 

Boston and Lester will be the back up. I believe Lester will share a good amount of playing time with Harper especially on passing downs.

 

​I don't see Jones making the team. 

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It's possible, but I'm thinking Godfrey's position flexibility might prohibit it.  

 

maybe the possibility exists pre-achilles injury,, but I find it hard to believe he'll be able to compete and outproduce either on the outside or at nickle...

 

color me shocked if he even makes the team..

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Now whats all this talk of Lester being cut? I'm sorry but I just don't see it. He proved himself as a UDFA last year and he saw a lot of time on the field. I believe Jones could be the odd man out. Yes he is a special teams ace but could Boston replace him? 

 

wait what?  i think one person said that, that doesnt mean there is all this talk of him being cut.

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