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[quote name='Fireball77']Well to me it's not just pure skill that determine things on this team. Has JM ever publicly admitted to quitting on his team as Dick Butkus has? No, he has always been a good teammate and that is big time on this team. Also I believe that JM gives them a far better chance to win as a QB than Dick Butkus would.
Here's some examples of how I BELIEVE (not know for a fact, believe based on their actions) the team thinks vis a vis character: Carr did not seem to be a good teammate if you look at his public persona and the team did not rally behind him partly because of this I am thinking. He was shown the door after one year. Keyshawn was also shown the door after one year despite being fairly productive. As long as I live I will believe that had something to do with him as a lockerroom presence. Steve Smith has his issues no doubt about it but he has no legal issues I am aware of. Granted that is thanks to Lucas not pressing charges. He's also a family man and doesn't drink or party and he works his ass off as a player. Dick Butkus has horrendous football character and horrendous non football character. Lose-lose.[/QUOTE]

I see your point but if not for the jail time MV would still be a starter somewhere and a highly sought after one at that. JM not so much...

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:lol:

At walt227's title....

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I don't understand the fact that alot of people are discounting.......Jerry Richardson OWNS this team. I do believe he would have the final say. So in knowing that and what I know of the man.............why is this even being discussed? :confused:




Now for the conspiracy theorists......since JR has a deep love and admiration for the NFL........would it be out of the question to draft up a back door deal to make this NFL Black-eye kinda just go away? Naw.

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The reality of this, and it scares the hell out of me, is that with Kemoeatu going down and being placed on the IR we have the finances available to make some kind of move. With Steve Smith likely to miss the entire preseason and who knows how long into the regular season, we need a pure playmaker in the worst way.

Richardson is a man of high character. And he believes in second chances. If he can be convinced that this man is for real trying to turn his life around, then he'll have no problem giving him a hand up.

The idea of his versatility and potentially being able to play in a lot of different situations gives him value. And that's the truth, regardless of what some here would have you believe.

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[quote name='Vagrant']The reality of this, and it scares the hell out of me, is that with Kemoeatu going down and being placed on the IR we have the finances available to make some kind of move. [/QUOTE]

No.

We don't.

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[quote name='Vagrant']The reality of this, and it scares the hell out of me, is that with Kemoeatu going down and being placed on the IR we have the finances available to make some kind of move. With Steve Smith likely to miss the entire preseason and who knows how long into the regular season, we need a pure playmaker in the worst way.

Richardson is a man of high character. And he believes in second chances. If he can be convinced that this man is for real trying to turn his life around, then he'll have no problem giving him a hand up.

The idea of his versatility and potentially being able to play in a lot of different situations gives him value. And that's the truth, regardless of what some here would have you believe.[/QUOTE]

Please pay attention as we go through this one LAST TIME (as it has been said many, many times). You DO NOT get any relief from a player being placed on IR. Our Cap will continue to hae Kemo's salary included in it.

Capeesh!!!

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IR is not a salary dump.

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Dick Butkus

So i can't say Dick Butkus?

Well I can say Dick Butkus but I can't say Mike Dick Butkus?

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V I C K!!!

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[quote name='Vagrant']The reality of this, and it scares the hell out of me, is that with Kemoeatu going down and being placed on the IR we have the finances available to make some kind of move. [/QUOTE]

It was my understanding that players on injured reserve counted against the cap. After all, if that weren't the case, I have to think (hope) the Panthers would be looking to spend that newfound cap money on a replacement for Kemo.

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Michael V[COLOR=Black]ic[/COLOR]k.

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warning, bypassing the filter opens you up to more intersting means of punishment for mentioning that idiot's name.

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I just wanna trap people so I can delete 'em. Haven't deleted someone since Panthro...too bad he whined enough to get it back up.


THAT'SWHATSHESAID.

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Does the punishment have anything to do with a ginger and badger?

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a badger in a ginger?

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[quote name='Vagrant']The reality of this, and it scares the hell out of me,[/QUOTE]no need to fear what isn't going to happen...feel free to have an ulcer, though.[quote name='Vagrant'] is that with Kemoeatu going down and being placed on the IR we have the finances available to make some kind of move.[/QUOTE]no we don't. that isn't the way it works. we don't have extra cash because we have a player on IR. if we did that money should be spent on a DT....we lost a big one, we need a big one.[quote name='Vagrant'] With Steve Smith likely to miss the entire preseason and who knows how long into the regular season, we need a pure playmaker in the worst way.[/QUOTE]it's only a frikkin bruise on his shoulder. he wasn't even wearing the sling today. he isn't going to miss regualr season and we have more playmakers than smith...if you haven't noticed. that playbook is just now starting to open up and we have players that the coaches feel good about.

[quote name='Vagrant']Richardson is a man of high character. And he believes in second chances. If he can be convinced that this man is for real trying to turn his life around, then he'll have no problem giving him a hand up.[/QUOTE]yes...richardson is a great man and might feel that vick deserves a second chance but his troubles and character problems went far beyond the dog fighting. it was only a matter of time before we got into big trouble. he was on borrowed time. he might deserve a chance somewhere...somewhere else.

[quote name='Vagrant']The idea of his versatility and potentially being able to play in a lot of different situations gives him value. And that's the truth, regardless of what some here would have you believe.[/QUOTE]he has talent. the negatives of what he brings heavily outweighs they negative. that is what needs to be believed and why it won't happen.

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I call him Dumpy.

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Even if we were interested in him before, wouldn't that interest be faded away just a little bit now that Smitty is gone until (hopefully) week 1 of the regular season? I would think if we signed a (potential) first string QB who plays the game nothing like our current 1st-string QB, and who hasn't played NFL football in 2 years, we may want him to get his timing down with our franchise all-pro wideout. Smitty is so used to going back and catching Jake passes behind him, he wouldn't know what the hell to do with one over his head.

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there are so many of these threads I wasn't sure which one to reply to, so I chose the one not started by a troll.

[B]IF[/B] MV were brought in, i could see him being on the field 3 to 5 plays a game. Most likely in the Wildcat. possibly in a receiver position. i hope it doesn't happen though.

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Ok and who gets cut just so they can bring that turd in for 3-5 plays/game?
Nahhhh...already taking up a precious roster spot with a kickoff specialist.

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[quote name='Fireball77']Ok and who gets cut just so they can bring that turd in for 3-5 plays/game?
Nahhhh...already taking up a precious roster spot with a kickoff specialist.[/QUOTE]

Obvious answer would be Matt or Josh. I don't see it happening though, nor do I wish it would.

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$100 to anyone who wants to bet against me that Vick ends up a Panther...


or else, STFU... please. :)

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[quote name='bleys']$100 to anyone who wants to bet against me that Vick doesn't end up a Panther...


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Wait...which one do you think is going to happen?

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[quote name='KING KLONG']Obvious answer would be Matt or Josh. I don't see it happening though, nor do I wish it would.[/QUOTE]
LOL I didn't even think of them because I don't think of Butkus as a QB but you're right, that's probably what it would be.

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[quote name='Happy Panther']Wait...which one do you think is going to happen?[/QUOTE]

edited, thanks.. :)

I know Vick will NOT be a Panther...

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