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oh yea, almost forgot about Kris Jenkins.

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Sorry Jenkins,
you made your bed now sleep in it.
-John Fox and the "heartless" Cardiac Cats.



Dear Jenkins,
I know your ego is of epic porportions and at one point this season you thought you would get the last laugh against the Panthers. I'm sorry I was such a sh*tty coach and our QB is a few decades past retirement. In other words, you fail again.
-Eric Mangini

P.S. I gotta go catch a flight to Cleveland now, take care in New York, maybe if you throw down another media tirade you can end up in Dallas I know you would fit right in there!

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that was just a bad misfortune for everyone. i know that what is done is done, but i have hated that trade ever since it happened. if only we still had him in lewis' spot... as good as our team is, imagine i the pass rush was twice as good. our secondary would also look better. oh well, he would rather go to a chinese buffet than show up to camp in shape i guess.

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I miss Jenkins. I don't get attached to players like I used to. Back in '97 I was Kevin Greene's biggest fan. When he left to go to San Fran, I was a devastated. I don't know how I would react if Peppers or Smith left for TB. I'm glad I saw his last sack against NO in his final year in Charlotte / correct me if I'm wrong

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[quote name='chris999']that was just a bad misfortune for everyone. i know that what is done is done, but i have hated that trade ever since it happened. if only we still had him in lewis' spot... as good as our team is, imagine i the pass rush was twice as good. our secondary would also look better. oh well, he would rather go to a chinese buffet than show up to camp in shape i guess.[/quote]

yep because having a locker room of 20 pro bowlers with no chemistry is the winning strategy that got Dallas to their 16-0 record this year. Not saying that i dont agree with you that I wish Jenkins would have been a different person but he was a horrible person and got what he deserved.

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At least we got Godfrey out of that Jets pick. It was a win-win situation

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I would have loved to have kept Jinx if we could have just gotten rid of his god damn ego. Unfortunately he just didn't want to play for us and while we do miss his on the field ability, more than a few Panthers have pointed out how much of a drain he was in the locker room.

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Kris Jenkins' personsa changed [I]a lot[/I] during his tenure in Charlotte.

He was "Big Kid" at first, a good teammate and a guy everybody liked. Over the years though, a combination of domestic issues (the flap over his child), injuries, alcohol, overeating and letting fame go to his head changed him.

He became the personification of "do as I say, not as I do", calling out teammates for being lazy and halfhearted while he himself was perpetually showing up out of shape for camp. In the end, he was nothing like the guy the Panthers drafted, and was becoming a locker room cancer.

Kris Jenkins has only been gone from Carolina for one year.

"Big Kid" left a long time ago.

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I really liked Jenkins. And in all honesty I felt the same way he did about the Panthers at that point. It did feel like their heart just was not in it, and we were underperforming for the talent we had on that team. It seemed almost as if they stopped playing for their fans and for Fox for awhile there. But some of that could be attributed to the post-Superbowl loss effect that a lot of teams go through, especially for a young team like Carolina. It was so huge for us to be there in 2003, and so unbelievable to even a lot of the guys on our team, that I think a lot of players didn't believe they could repeat that feat any time soon.

However, Jenkins did indeed need to look at himself as well, before pointing fingers. He may have been part of the problem. Either way, no hard feelings here. IDK how if it was Fox that did it, but there does seem to be a change in attitude this year where our team is just playing with a lot more passion and fire than they have the past couple of years.

You can blame it on a lot of different things, but you don't have to look much further than Peppers' numbers to see this team is just playing on a different level this year compared to the last couple of years.

So whatever the reason, Delhomme being back, Smith suspension, Peppers being in a contract year, Moose being back, Fox being on the hot seat, Kris "Big Mouth" Jenkins getting traded, all the stars aligned for us this year to be where we are today. I just hope we can finish it this time.

This should be our slogan: FINISH IT! No more losses by a field goal in the last seconds of our biggest games, like the 2003 Superbowl or the Giants game eariler this year.

We just need that little extra "heart". That little push that will get those 3 points in our favor this time. We were every bit as good as the Patriots in that Superbowl, and every bit as good as the Giants 3 weeks and someone has to win the game. It's about time that we start acting like the team that belongs and stop whining about not getting respect.

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I think even his on the field play was selfish. He was frequently offsides and that's a killer penalty that doesn't show up in individual stats. Maybe he'd get an extra sack or tackle for a loss, but he'd extend a drive or two and/or give away a free play that might turn into a lot of yardage. I'm real happy with Maake and Lewis in the middle.

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[quote name='RonnieTheBear']I think even his on the field play was selfish. He was frequently offsides and that's a killer penalty that doesn't show up in individual stats. Maybe he'd get an extra sack or tackle for a loss, but he'd extend a drive or two and/or give away a free play that might turn into a lot of yardage. [b]I'm real happy with Maake and Lewis in the middle[/b].[/quote]

Ouch, you're in the minority there.

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Kris Jenkins was the 44th overall pick in the 01' draft. Damione Lewis was the 12th overall pick in the 01' draft. That is why the Rams suck. Lousey drafting. Why in the world did we give Lewis a new three-year $14 million extension in 07'? What does he do on passing downs? Nothing! You know who we need? A DT like Marcus Stroud when he was in his prime. If we had a guy like that at Lewis' spot then I think we would win the SB. But Lewis just sucks. I mean the Rams had to come to terms with it. Maybe now it's our turn.

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[quote name='pantherj']Kris Jenkins was the 44th overall pick in the 01' draft. Damione Lewis was the 12th overall pick in the 01' draft. That is why the Rams suck. Lousey drafting. Why in the world did we give Lewis a new three-year $14 million extension in 07'? What does he do on passing downs? Nothing! You know who we need? A DT like Marcus Stroud when he was in his prime. If we had a guy like that at Lewis' spot then I think we would win the SB. But Lewis just sucks. I mean the Rams had to come to terms with it. Maybe now it's our turn.[/quote]

Ever heard of the salary cap there buddy?

Every team out there would like to have an All Pro at every position. This is not Madden Football. Please understand the economics of the game before you make more stupid comments.

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[quote name='Miaoww']Ouch, you're in the minority there.[/quote]

I'm happy with Kemo. Lewis would be easily replaceable in my opinion. I miss Jenkins on the field. But It's obvious he didn't want to be here, so I don't want him either. I hope he enjoys New Jersey, because that's where his fat alcoholic ass will be sitting every year during the playoffs.

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Jenkins was a great player but he was a cancer in the locker room...when a player starts infecting other players with his opinions and attitudes, the team is lost....case in point; T.O. and Dallas.
The Panthers got Jenkins out of here before any damage was done.

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Jenkins sucks. He disappeared for the last quarter of the Jets season when they needed him most. Being lazy, eating and drinking too much don't contribute to you body's ability to last an entire season. This was a motivated Jenkins with something to prove. He will go back to being bored and underachieving again very soon. Good riddance.

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Speaking from experience, the only thing money does is accentuate your character. If you were an a-hole before, now your a rich a-hole. If you think he was lazy before now with the big extension he's just gonna be rich and lazy. All he did was put up a front his first 7-9 games. After that its back to the same ole getting by with natural talent instead of hard work routine. His natural ability is still better than most peoples hard work and so he will still perform. But the people who play with him day in day out will notice and it is a cancer.

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I agree Udogg. I forget who said it, but one of the ESPN pregame guys said: Money doesn't change people, it allows them to be who they really are.

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reminder that the jets slide in the last month of the season was due in large part on the defensive side to jenkins vanishing.

he got tired and started getting fat. he'll probably ask for a new contract next

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[quote name='Miaoww']Ouch, you're in the minority there.[/quote]
Actually, he's probably not. We had this discussion a while back, and from what I remember most folks said they were fine with him being gone and a healthy Kemo and Lewis manning the middle.

When both are healthy, they've been fine, and neither is a problem in the locker room.

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The thing that really bothers me about Jenkins, is that he said he had to get out of Charlotte. While I agree that Charlotte may not be for everybody, Kris Jenkins is a millionaire who gets about 3 months out of every year to go and live anywhere he wants. How many of us have that kind of a choice in life?

It also bothers me that he could be every bit as good, or maybe even better than Albert Haynesworth, if he was willing to put in the work and actually earn all that money.

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[quote name='MadHatter']Ever heard of the salary cap there buddy?

Every team out there would like to have an All Pro at every position. This is not Madden Football. Please understand the economics of the game before you make more stupid comments.[/quote]

No what's a salary cap? I didn't say we were going to go out and buy an All-Pro DT, I said it's what we need. Did anyone get my point? Hint: The point is not that I think the NFL is like Madden Football.

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Jenk is a great player but as said before became a horrible person. I dont think I would have felt so happy about his situation if it was not for the comments he made mid season. I said it then and its happening now. They started to lose and now everyone is throwing people under the bus. Not even Farve is untouchable in NY.

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well, it kinda is his fault...

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Hey Jenks.....How is that move the NY treating you.

Well, at least he has more time to hit the buffet tables...no playoffs to get it the way.

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Jenkins was a pro bowler in the beginning but has declined year by year. Last year he made no difference, we still got ran on. He was so big, sometimes it looked like people just ran past him. I think his attitude toward the team affected his play here. He's not dominate like a Haynesworth. He once was though

I'm glad we got rid of him. He become a problem

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