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I know there's been a lot of speculation about whether Jimmy would give Cam his jersey and Clausen said the the following:

[QUOTE]"It's mine right now," Clausen said of the No.2 jersey. "We'll see what happens."

Has Clausen set an asking price?

He smiled and said again: "We'll see what happens."
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He also said that he met with Hurney and Rivera and came away feeling optimistic that he'll have a chance next year and that he's going to have fun competing with Cam.

Cam originally planed on stay in Charlotte longer but once the lockout was put back on he decided to leave yesterday. Hopefully if some of the guys decide to get together to practice or workout he'll come back. You can read the whole article [URL="http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/04/30/2263174/clausen-isnt-ready-to-give-up.html#ixzz1L6tJuBwM"]here.[/URL]

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Lol if all the guys got together I bet Cam would start practicing with all the players and leave Jimmy out. With Cam having his dat deal smile on the whole time.

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To Clausen: Just go away, you are not welcome here.

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What's the Observer been doing?
Posting these decent articles lately....I mean who do they think they are...

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[quote name='CarolinaPanthers8789']To Clausen: Just go away, you are not welcome here.[/QUOTE]

If nothing else having a competition will make one of the QBs better. I'm sure that having however many QBs in training camp fighting it out will elevate their game. Not saying it will make any of them flat out incredible but competition breads improvement. I thought last years training camp was going to be fun to watch because of Moore/Clausen (it was not fun to watch) but depending on who we have on the roster come training camp time the sparks could really fly.

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Some of you are just brain dead. Why would you NOT want Clausen competing? Why would you NOT want him beating out Cam? You think Cam will progress more rapidly if all competition is eliminated? Do you think Cam is owed the job now? If Clausen plays well, we benefit in many ways. It buys time for Cam to develop (by the way, don't you think Cam should stay in Charlotte to work with players who might help him learn the playbook?) and it gives us a potential Kevin Kolb to trade. Go away, Jimmy? It must be convenient for you to blame everything on Jimmy. I do not have time here to take you back into your childhoods to when you should have learned about common sense and loyalty. If you hate a Panther that much when so much else went wrong with this franchise, there is no help for YOU. If Clausen fights for the job and does it well, we get better as a franchise. We do not OWE Cam or anyone else squat.
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i would love to see clausen succeed...only increases his trade value

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[quote name='MHS831']Some of you are just brain dead. Why would you NOT want Clausen competing? Why would you NOT want him beating out Cam? You think Cam will progress more rapidly if all competition is eliminated? Do you think Cam is owed the job now? If Clausen plays well, we benefit in many ways. It buys time for Cam to develop (by the way, don't you think Cam should stay in Charlotte to work with players who might help him learn the playbook?) and it gives us a potential Kevin Kolb to trade. Go away, Jimmy? It must be convenient for you to blame everything on Jimmy. I do not have time here to take you back into your childhoods to when you should have learned about common sense and loyalty. If you hate a Panther that much when so much else went wrong with this franchise, there is no help for YOU. If Clausen fights for the job and does it well, we get better as a franchise. We do not OWE Cam or anyone else squat.[/QUOTE]

Well put.

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Good read. I have to say, I'm pretty pleased with the way Clausen has handled all this. Seems he is nothing like the spoiled rotten brat he was made out to be back in 2010, before the draft.

I really hope Clausen sticks around. I think he could be a serviceable back-up. One that's not going to make waves in the locker room.

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I have a feeling that drafting Newton might have been the best thing for Clausen, I’ve watched his tapes and he can make all the throws so his problem was probably mental. The young man was not ready to be the starter on this team and needed to sit for awhile and learn, instead he was thrown to the wolves. Now with Newton here he knows he is not in the long term plans as the starting QB for the Panthers so what does he have to lose? Clausen can now go out on the field and let her rip, he no longer has to worry about losing his starting job because when Newton is ready (this is if Newton reaches his potential) he will take over. Clausen knows what the coaches want, he’s had time to think about it and that is throw the ball down field, no more of this dinking and dunking stuff. What does he have to lose, either he settles down and keeps his job for a little while ( along with him auditioning for another team) or he gets pulled sooner than later.

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[quote name='CarolinaPanthers8789']To Clausen: Just go away, you are not welcome here.[/QUOTE]

You my friend is not welcome...

Every Panther is welcome. And you apparently is not a Panther so GTFO.

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I'm glad Clausen is not laying down, competition is good for everybody and if Cam's the right guy it will be good for him that Clausen plans to put up a fight.

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I want a Clausen vs. Cam decision to be really, really hard to make a few years down the road should it come to that.

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[quote name='klumme']You my friend is not welcome...

Every Panther is welcome. And you apparently is not a Panther so GTFO.[/QUOTE]

Internet talk is tough buddy, you little cyber bully you. By the way learn to speak English.

Clausen is not welcome; especially with that attitude, acting like he is entitled to something. He is entitled to nothing he is one of the main reason's along with the coaching staff from last year that we are where we are and now he thinks that he deserves number two. For what reason, he couldn't even reach two wins last year.

There is a simple way to solve the number debacle.

Going into training camp and possibly preseason (if there is one), Cam Newton and Jimmy Clausen pick different numbers other than number two: for example Clausen pick's 13 and Newton pick's 5. After deciding on their numbers, they battle it out in training camp and in the preseason and who ever gets the starting job or is higher on the depth chart gets number two.

Now, I know someone is going to say something idiotic and foolish, like this sounds like a high school football move. However, like you all have said; competition will bring out the best in everyone.

Nonetheless, Clausen has no reason to get all high and mighty that he owns number two when more or less he doesn't even deserve that number or any number for that matter.

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Exactly. I compare it to the Drew Brees river situation. We can benefit greatly if he plays out the right way.

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[quote name='MHS831']Some of you are just brain dead. Why would you NOT want Clausen competing? Why would you NOT want him beating out Cam? You think Cam will progress more rapidly if all competition is eliminated? Do you think Cam is owed the job now? If Clausen plays well, we benefit in many ways. It buys time for Cam to develop (by the way, don't you think Cam should stay in Charlotte to work with players who might help him learn the playbook?) and it gives us a potential Kevin Kolb to trade. Go away, Jimmy? It must be convenient for you to blame everything on Jimmy. I do not have time here to take you back into your childhoods to when you should have learned about common sense and loyalty. If you hate a Panther that much when so much else went wrong with this franchise, there is no help for YOU. If Clausen fights for the job and does it well, we get better as a franchise. We do not OWE Cam or anyone else squat.[/QUOTE]

Cam is going back to get his belongings as in his entire life and move it Charlotte, but nice try .

Secondly, Clausen is also entitled nothing and needs to stop acting like it and that starts with the competiton for the starting job at quarterback and the priveledge to where the number two on the back of their jersey.

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#2 is Clausen's number. That's the number that was given to him and he has every right to keep it. Hell if I were Clausen I'd tell Cam to pick another number. He doesn't owe Cam or anyone else anything, especially someone who's coming here to essentially take his job. No self respecting player would let him have it or even let his number go into a competition unless he didn't mind.

The only number he should be worried about is #1 on the depth chart. I look forward to the TC battle.

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[quote name='Udogg']Exactly. I compare it to the Drew Brees river situation. We can benefit greatly if he plays out the right way.[/QUOTE]

Except both of them were actually good.

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[quote name='OneBadassCat']#2 is Clausen's number. That's the number that was given to him and he has every right to keep it. Hell if I were Clausen I'd tell Cam to pick another number. He doesn't owe Cam or anyone else anything, especially someone who's coming here to essentially take his job. No self respecting player would let him have it or even let his number go into a competition unless he didn't mind.

The only number he should be worried about is #1 on the depth chart. I look forward to the TC battle.[/QUOTE]

Clausen does not have a right to anything after his performance last year. If I was him I would request to be a rookie again and forget that abysmal season that he had last year, and if Clausen thinks he is good enough to win the starting job then he should put his number on the line.

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Sorry but I want a Montana/Young or McNabb/Kolb/Vick situation on our hands. I will be more than happy to have both of these guys become franshise players and honestly I think they both can.

I was going to start a thread on this but I will just mention it here. I caught the Luck interview on ESPN this morning and I'm not sure if it's the high of the draft or that once you are a Panther I'm your biggest fan but I think I might like Newton more than Luck.

I'm not saying I would have wanted to draft Newton ahead of Luck if he would have declared. But Newton is way more a media darling and Luck comes off as that goofy, nerdy guy from high school that everyone liked but no one hung out with. It could be a good thing that Luck didn't declare because while you also want the best player sometimes you need the better personality for your team chemistry. I can even see Newton defending Clausen and encouraging him to do better and not give up. I wouldn't have seen that from with Luck.

Ah, the euphoria after the draft...

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[quote name='CarolinaPanthers8789']Clausen does not have a right to anything after his performance last year. If I was him I would request to be a rookie again and forget that abysmal season that he had last year, and if Clausen thinks he is good enough to win the starting job then he should put his number on the line.[/QUOTE]

You are a fool.

Clausen was asked a direct question if he was going to give up his jersey number. What prideful and competitive person is going to just give the equally unproven guy what he wants?

Plus, it's a number. You are making a huge deal of this simply because you hate Clausen. Which just makes you look like an immature idiot.
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[quote name='Urrymonster']You are a fool.

Clausen was asked a direct question if he was going to give up his jersey number. What prideful and competitive person is going to just give the equally unproven guy what he wants?

Plus, it's a number. You are making a huge deal of this simply because you hate Clausen. Which just makes you look like an immature idiot.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I'm the fool.

Shut you mouth and learn you place dumbass.

He responded with "it's mine."

Secondly, I didn't say that he should give it to Cam, I said they should have a competition for it.

Third, I don't hate Clausen, but he is entitled to nothing more than Cam after that season last year, and if it's just a jersey, then why not have a competition for it?

I didn't realized you stood behind Clausen and held his balls.

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Why should Clausen have to compete for it? He was on the team before Cam. Even Newton himself said he wasn't going to walk in and take command of the team, he was going to earn the respect of the locker room first. Whether you like it or not that includes Clausen. Taking someone's number or making them compete for it against their wishes is a sign of disrespect.
And I don't even like Clausen that much.

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[quote name='CarolinaPanthers8789']Clausen does not have a right to anything after his performance last year. If I was him I would request to be a rookie again and forget that abysmal season that he had last year, and if Clausen thinks he is good enough to win the starting job then he should put his number on the line.[/QUOTE]

See now you are forgeting just who Newton is.

Do you remember the NFL season Newton had last year and how horrible it was? He had no starts, no passes, no completions, no TDs. He didn't even rush for any yards. It was like he wasn't even in the NFL last season. While Clausen only threw 1 TD in the NFL that is one more than Newton did last year.

I won't argue with you that based on his performance Clausen needs to be somewhat humble. But don't confuse that with Newton having the right to be more than a rookie. Hopefully, Newton's additude isn't anything like yours and he walks into the doors supporting all of his teammates and taking his lumps like all rookies.

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[quote name='CarolinaPanthers8789']To Clausen: Just go away, you are not welcome here.[/QUOTE]

No Panther fan should be wishing failure for Jimmy. We need to cheer him on like any other Panther. If he comes into camp and blows things up and starts we should support him. Just because Cam was picked doesn't me poo except he is also on the team and we should support him as well. I hate poeple who try to divide our team like this, it's not cool. I hope one of our QBs really steps it up and we are as confident in [I]whoever [/I] is starting day one.

CLausen had #2 first and deserves it more than Cam, Clausen got battered to hell in that jersey his rookie year. [I]In the NFL[/I]. He deserves it more and has every right to it.

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