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Kicked off on Sunday.

USA kick off tonight against Canada at 8 ET/7 CT on FSC.

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Robert Green became a Canadian?
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What is this "soccer" you speak of?

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Spain Whooped the US 4-0... They are in bad shape... They need to step up their game.

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USA just isn't elite at soccer and it's to be expected. If you're a great athlete in the US you will most likely play football or basketball. Also with widespread obesity it's not exactly a sport a lot of young people will want to play. We need timeouts, time between plays or free throw breaks.

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[quote name='Boltergeist']Robert Green became a Canadian?[/QUOTE]

exactly what everyone at my house said.

Have had numerous chances to score but haven't converted them.

Everyone has been playing great, especially Jozy and Clint.

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2-0 USA

Great result. Probably should have scored more, but we'll take those 3 points.

USA/Panama Saturday at 7

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[quote name='sylvianlight']USA just isn't elite at soccer and it's to be expected. If you're a great athlete in the US you will most likely play football or basketball. Also with widespread obesity it's not exactly a sport a lot of young people will want to play. We need timeouts, time between plays or free throw breaks.[/QUOTE]



Sounds like excuses to me.

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[quote name='sylvianlight']USA just isn't elite at soccer and it's to be expected. If you're a great athlete in the US you will most likely play football or basketball. Also with widespread obesity it's not exactly a sport a lot of young people will want to play. We need timeouts, time between plays or free throw breaks.[/QUOTE]

Yall talk like the World Cup was ages ago.

USA is full of up and coming soccer stars. Soccer in the USA is rising faster than u think.
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That Scorpion kick that Dempsey tried was uber sick. Grant Wahl wrote if that had gone in that would have easily have been the best goal ever by a U.S. Player.

Anyway, I am the official statistician for the two matches at BOA Thursday night. Really looking forward to seeing Chicharito in person.

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[quote name='IvanTheAwesome']Sounds like excuses to me.[/QUOTE]

I don't see how so. China is a great country and they're not good at soccer either. Russia isn't good at soccer, Japan isn't. They say it's the world's game but really it's more like South America and Europe's game. Canada also isn't an impressive soccer team.

Plenty of countries tend to focus on other sports. The US and China bring home lots of gold medals during the Olympics. Much more than Brazil or Spain. Japan has impressive baseball teams and they also put a lot of focus on things like judo and archery. Then they have their own sport in sumo wrestling just like the US has its own sport in American football. No country will be great at every sport.

Soccer is insignificant in the US so it obviously attracts less athletes. I don't imagine the US would do well in a Rugby match against another nation either. Nor would we beat Japan at sumo wrestling.

If soccer was the US #1 sport and they were mediocre I would be disappointed. Sort of like when Larry Brown coached the US Men's basketball team. There's no reason to be disappointed that the US is mediocre in a sport that is locally unpopular.

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[quote name='sylvianlight']I don't see how so. China is a great country and they're not good at soccer either. Russia isn't good at soccer, Japan isn't. They say it's the world's game but really it's more like South America and Europe's game. Canada also isn't an impressive soccer team.

Plenty of countries tend to focus on other sports. The US and China bring home lots of gold medals during the Olympics. Much more than Brazil or Spain. Japan has impressive baseball teams and they also put a lot of focus on things like judo and archery. Then they have their own sport in sumo wrestling just like the US has its own sport in American football. No country will be great at every sport.

Soccer is insignificant in the US so it obviously attracts less athletes. I don't imagine the US would do well in a Rugby match against another nation either. Nor would we beat Japan at sumo wrestling.

If soccer was the US #1 sport and they were mediocre I would be disappointed. Sort of like when Larry Brown coached the US Men's basketball team. [B]There's no reason to be disappointed that the US is mediocre in a sport that is locally unpopular.[/B][/QUOTE]

Russia and Japan aren't good? News to me.

So basically is what you are saying is that because since not everyone in the US likes Soccer we can't be passionate about it? So there is no reason to be pissed about the Bobcats, they are not popular in other parts of the nation so there is no reason to get upset about them when they suck.

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sylvian you might want to do some research before posting on a sport in which you have limited knowledge. Both Russia and Japan are good international soccer teams. Their best players play on club teams alongside some of the best players in the world.

Soccer insignificant? locally unpopular? Tell that to the millions of youth players across this country. Tell that to the countless college athletes who put their heart and soul onto the pitch day in and day out.
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[quote name='IvanTheAwesome']Spain Whooped the US 4-0... They are in bad shape... They need to step up their game.[/QUOTE]

I'm not going to take a lot out of a bunch of backups playing in a meaningless game right before an important tourny.

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i wished the matchups in Charlotte were reversed. i much rather see Costa Rica vs Mex than Mex vs Cuba and CR vs El Sal.

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[quote name='tarheelblue89']Russia and Japan aren't good? News to me.
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[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_national_football_team[/url]

They haven't qualified for the past two world cups. As Russia, their best efforts are simply qualifying and playing in the group stage.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_national_football_team[/url]

Japan's made it to the world cup 4 times straight. With that said they've only made it to the world cup 4 times...

On the other hand the US has 9 world cup appearances and a third place finish. They've also been to 6 straight world cups.

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So basically is what you are saying is that because since not everyone in the US likes Soccer we can't be passionate about it? So there is no reason to be pissed about the Bobcats, they are not popular in other parts of the nation so there is no reason to get upset about them when they suck.[/QUOTE]

Not saying that at all. I'm just explaining why the US isn't dominant at soccer. I personally like soccer a lot and I have no problem with supporting mediocrity. My problem is people trying to bash the USA based on them having a mediocre soccer team while misstating facts.

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[quote name='OnlyPantherfaninMaine']sylvian you might want to do some research before posting on a sport in which you have limited knowledge. Both Russia and Japan are good international soccer teams. Their best players play on club teams alongside some of the best players in the world.

Soccer insignificant? locally unpopular? Tell that to the millions of youth players across this country. Tell that to the countless college athletes who put their heart and soul onto the pitch day in and day out.[/QUOTE]

Research was already done and I posted it. Just because they have a player on a good club does not make them great international soccer teams. Yao Ming plays in the NBA, it doesn't mean China is great at basketball.

As for being insignificant and unpopular, relatively speaking, that is the case. Obviously football and basketball are much more popular and even after that I seem to meet more people interested in baseball, hockey and nascar more than I meet people involved or interested in soccer.

College athletes play lacrosse but I'm not going to say it's a significant and popular sport.

I'm not trying to bash soccer. Just trying to put things into perspective.

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USA was ranked in the top 10 a few years ago. Still top 25.

Decent world cups despite obvious anti American bias.

and we beat Spain 2-0 2 years ago.

The best thing we have right now is the fact that a few MLS teams are getting 20k average attendance. They go apepoo on the West coast for soccer.

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Uptown is a madhouse. Walking around stadium soon and getting a burrito from some mexican lady who makes them out of her car and doesn't speak english.

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[quote name='JakeFlake']Uptown is a madhouse. Walking around stadium soon and getting a burrito from some mexican lady who makes them out of her car and doesn't speak english.[/QUOTE]

Come to Texas. We have two of those on every street.

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[quote name='JakeFlake']Uptown is a madhouse. Walking around stadium soon and getting a burrito from some mexican lady who makes them out of her car and doesn't speak english.[/QUOTE]

Those are the best kind to get. Not anything like the americanized version in "mexican" restaurants.

@ Sylvannialight

They still sound like excuses to me. Just saying.

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BOA will see more insanity than the Panthers could ever muster tonight.

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5 Mexican players banned for testing positive for some kind of substance. Mexican media going apepoo.

One of the banned is Ochoa, the starting keeper. I think one Mexican writer is about to cry.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/6645794/positive-tests-oust-five-mexicans-soccer-players-gold-cup]5 Mexicans test positive for clenbuterol[/url]

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[quote name='sylvianlight'][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_national_football_team[/url]

They haven't qualified for the past two world cups. As Russia, their best efforts are simply qualifying and playing in the group stage.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_national_football_team[/url]

Japan's made it to the world cup 4 times straight. With that said they've only made it to the world cup 4 times...

On the other hand the US has 9 world cup appearances and a third place finish. They've also been to 6 straight world cups.



Not saying that at all. I'm just explaining why the US isn't dominant at soccer. I personally like soccer a lot and I have no problem with supporting mediocrity. My problem is people trying to bash the USA based on them having a mediocre soccer team while misstating facts.[/QUOTE]


Japan is 14th and Russia is 18th in the world rankings. Last time I checked being ranked in the top 20 outta hundreds of teams is kind of good.

Plus I guess you thought it was reasonable to leave out that Russia made it to the Semis in Euro '08.

I feel like you are only focusing on the WC, which you shouldn't be doing. Japan has won 3 of the 4 last Asian Cups and they made it past the group stage in last years WC which is an accomplishment in it self. They are an up and coming team that will be make a lot of noise in the coming future.

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