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Remember The Panthers Will Be Moving To 3-4 Soon.

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[url="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8233e2d3/article/panthers-could-eventually-switch-to-34-defense"]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8233e2d3/article/panthers-could-eventually-switch-to-34-defense[/url]

I remember seeing this last year and Charles Johnson lined up at OLB and liked it better because he could see the play develop more and get speed up before reaching o-line.

Question is do they get the pieces to switch this year or go half and half this year? The texans proved last year that a team can switch in a year.

I would like to see them get poe to be the haloti ngata type player. He fits the 3-4 for a bigger faster stronger kind of defense. We need all the talent on defense we can get. With new draft additions and players back from injuries our defense has to be better than last year.

What are your thoughts? and if we move to a 3-4 base defense what players would you want in the draft?

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the topic has been disscussed so much I really don't care. I just don't. both defenses work Rivera has run both well. But I think we do more of a 4-3. I really, really don't care anymore though.
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we are not even close to having the pieces for a 3-4
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[quote name='mvp2011' timestamp='1332536945' post='1701049']
we are not even close to having the pieces for a 3-4
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[quote name='mvp2011' timestamp='1332536945' post='1701049']
we are not even close to having the pieces for a 3-4
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A fact that could influence the draft. Kuechly, Ingram, Hightower---all could be higher on the board than we think.

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we do have some there. Johnson, keisel (who rivera likes in 3-4) at olb. Beason, and anderson/davis at mlb when running the 3-4. Ron edwards nose tackle, def ends mcclain, fua (who could play nose), draft pick (poe/cox/brockers or 2nd rounder). They could do it if the draft picks turn out right.

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We are a 4-3. We may occasionally run out of a few packages that look like a 3-4 but we are nowhere near running it as our base defense.

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we did bring in Kuechly for a visit which had people scratching their heads being that he's a mlb/ilb and we have Beason. Rivera likes his LB's being that was a LB. This might be our pick. who knows...

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And we were down to our sixtieth linebacker by the end of the season soooo makes sense we would look at one

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i love how "could...eventually" turns into "will be...soon"

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title of thread..."
[b] Remember The Panthers Will Be Moving To 3-4 Soon."[/b]

title of linked article..."
[b] Panthers could eventually switch to 3-4 defense"[/b]


from the last line of the OP..."if we move to a 3-4 base defense"

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Switching to 3-4 isn't simply an issue of getting another ILB. You need a specific type with a specific build and specific talents, and neither Beason nor Kuechly fit the mold.

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if you think about it they will be a 3-4 soon. They aren't going to wait til the end of their coaching contracts to move to a different defense. When they got together and wanted to move to a 3-4 eventually then that wouldn't mean 4 to 5 years down road. As a coach you have to do what your plan is to get where you need to be. You don't wait around and finally change defenses 5 years later and possibly be out of a job before that. I know it looks like he will be around for long time cause of cam but you don't draft 4-3 players or bring in young guys for a 4-3 when you eventually move to a 3-4 base def. Now as I am repeating myself from get go, they could next season be in a 4-3 and split time with 3-4 and then work way to new defense.

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3-4 looks out of a 4-3 base...and that's simply to make the QB think a bit more , about where the blitz is coming from.

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Nope we're a 4-3 and sometimes run the 3-4 kinda like the Pats.
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[size=4]"[/size][size=4]Remember The Panthers Will Be Moving To 3-4 Soon."[/size]

No we wont...idiot
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Amazing how «we'd like to run both the 43 and 34» gets translated into «we switching to the 34.»

Either way, Poe would be a big piece in both schemes.

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Based on the fact that we haven't re-signed Applewhite, I'd agree with the consensus, 4-3 with 3-4 packages every now and then.

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a 3-4 base defense doesn't mean they run it 90-100% of time. The patriots used to be a 3-4 base def and ran it 50-50. The panthers might run it 50-50 or 60-40 or whatever. It's okay that some of you don't know what football is becoming. Bigger, faster, stronger. 3-4 like ravens, steelers, packers, 49ers. 3-4 defenses. Bigger athletic defenses. People said Texans didn't have the pieces and look where they went. They were a 3-4 and after the year before where they were garbage on def, they moved and one of the top defenses in football. With offensive players getting bigger and faster, teams have to go bigger and faster. It's the evolution of the game. Guess that's why some people have knowledge of a matt millen.

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I doubt very seriously that we well ever do much more than periodic 3-4 looks. Rivera said as much last year. The idea that we are actively trying to switch to a 3-4 base is preposterous, especially considering the fact that we have actively resigned 4-3 specific personnel over the last two off seasons and if a switch was happening you would think that we wouldn't be doing that.

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You're splitting hairs and trying to go back on what you said before.

Just stop.
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*shoots self in head...

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The only thing more predictable than bad threads on the huddle is the inflamed defensive ad hominems by the OP

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This guy is going full retard... Lol

It's been stated many times by Rivera that we won't be moving to a 3-4 except for periodic looks so can you please use your fugging brain?

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We didn't hire McDermett to run a 3-4 base. Now that we have a full off season to install/learn the full zone blitz scheme, we will probably do as much as any team. In order to stop the better offenses you have to disguise/confuse the QB. From time tp time any back seven player will blitz and someone in the front four will drop into coverage. In order to do this you need versatile players. That's why I think we draft Ingram if he's there, with Coples next and Poe third.

A good descrition of the Eagles blitz --http://www.eagleseyeblog.com/2012-articles/february/looking-back-at-the-eagles-feared-zone-blitz.html

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