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[quote]"He showed us enough," said Carroll. "He's in the competition." Carroll praised Wilson's preparation, "terrific arm," and early grasp of Seattle's West Coast offense while confirming he'll be given an opportunity to start on Opening Day. "I'd hoped that, and we confirmed it in these three days," Carroll said. "He left really no question about he needs to be involved in the competition."[/quote]

I still laugh at all the people who said they wouldn't take him until the 5th round. This guy is NOT Seneca Wallace...that's one of the most race-based comparisons I've seen. He's a shorter version of Drew Brees if you want to make a comparison and it's not going to shock me at all if he wins that starting job. I think he can succeed in any offense but if they open up a spread then he's going to be surgical with his arm and running ability.

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Lets see what happens before we decide much about him. What did you expect Carroll to say? He sucks and it was a mistake to pick him in the third? Somehow I think Flynn will start and he will be fighting for the third quarterback slot.

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Why would you spend millions on a QB in Flynn and expect a 5'10 3rd rounder to start?

He's talking to the birds. This is just to help Wilson get motivated.

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Russel is a very good QB prosepect IMO. Height is his problem... If he was taller he would've been a top 5 pick for sure.

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[quote name='Ken' timestamp='1337040307' post='1772638']
Russel is a very good QB prosepect IMO. Height is his problem... If he was taller he would've been a top 5 pick for sure.
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Yup, had he been 2-3 inches taller, he would have gone to Miami.

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miami prob gunna be pissed they passed on him. I wanted him...but he needs to start somewhere. wisconsin has a huge o-line ...i think he will be better than brees.

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maybe cool out on the Brees comparisons until he at least does something on the field at the next level. They are both shorter than most qb's, that about it so far.

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Hope Russell does well in the pros but this was one of my WTF draft picks. The Cousins pick for the redskins was obviously much worse and extremely dumb, but they are very similar selections.

Seahawks just invested money in Matt Flynn to be the guy and a week ago announce that there is basically an open competition for the QB job. Not a big fan of Flynn to begin with, but teams should do things to make their investments successful.

Still don't know what the Skins were thinking. Worst pick in the entire draft IMHO. Even worse than the Pats selecting a 4th string rugby player. 2 bad games from RG3 and the whispers will start.


Competition is great for everyone involved, but the draft choices could of been better spent and these two particular players (Flynn,RG3) and expected to and are being paid to be the guy.

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[quote name='Peppers90 NC' timestamp='1337098978' post='1773116']
maybe cool out on the Brees comparisons until he at least does something on the field at the next level. They are both shorter than most qb's, that about it so far.
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And Russell was a better college QB than Brees...

FWIW I don't think Carroll was blowing smoke and I think that Wilson will start at some point this season unless Flynn is the 2nd coming of Aaron Rodgers..

Other than the 3 inches he lacks RW was the second best QB in this draft..He did it for a longer period at a higher level than RG3 IMO.

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[quote name='unicar15' timestamp='1337107076' post='1773216']

Other than the 3 inches he lacks RW was the second best QB in this draft..He did it for a longer period at a higher level than RG3 IMO.
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I would agree with this. However, circumstances beyond control of the individual athlete sometimes dictate whether a guy makes it or not. Size plays a big factor in the NFL and while I know Brees is around six feet, it basically took the Chargers drafting Rivers before the light went off.

Chris Leak is another example of a guy who was weeded out of the NFL due to size.

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staters i still find hilarious, as with their 2 pennies.

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[quote name='blackpantherparty' timestamp='1337053297' post='1772849']
miami prob gunna be pissed they passed on him. I wanted him...but he needs to start somewhere. wisconsin has a huge o-line ...i think he will be better than brees.
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Yeah, if he doesnt win a super bowl and set the NFL record for passing yards in a season I would consider Russell Wilson a failure

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Flynn gets the first chance. However, they didn't give him a franchise QB type contract, so when he struggles, and I believe he will, they will give Russell his chance to start.

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how much was Flynn's contract? I thought he got paid big time but not sure

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Flynn: 3 years $26M $10M guaranteed. Not bad at all. Great deal if he plans out.

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Seattle sure has collected a bunch of good back up QBs. I think Wilson can be good, but not in Seattle.

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Is this the same Flynn that stunk up the place at LSU. LSU's best quarterback prospect was Jamarcus Russell, you can fill in the blanks.

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[quote name='MrTouchdown' timestamp='1337107535' post='1773228']
I would agree with this. However, circumstances beyond control of the individual athlete sometimes dictate whether a guy makes it or not. Size plays a big factor in the NFL and while I know Brees is around six feet, it basically took the Chargers drafting Rivers before the light went off.

Chris Leak is another example of a guy who was weeded out of the NFL due to size.
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Sometimes people come along that defy these sort of size limitations and still manage to succeed. It's not as though he was playing with a tiny OL in college, in fact most of his OL was as big or larger than your average NFL unit.

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I'm a huge UNC fan but for some odd reason, I really, really, really like Russell Wilson. I hope he is able to win the job and turn that Seattle program back in the right direction so they can kick the 49ers' ass in years to come.
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Instead of looking at his height, look at his success in college. He was unreal at NCSU, and was in the heisman race at Wisconsin and was only there for a season.

Of the QB's that threw at the combine, I thought he had the best touch and strength of the group.

Better arm than Brees or Brady. Good mobility. The lights won't be too bright after 50 college starts.

He has everything that I would look for in a QB if I was drafting him really high, except for a few inches.

TD:INT ratio
Completion %
At least 3 years starting
Able to make every throw
Size

Only lacking in one area, and you got him in the 3rd.
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[quote name='Hate' timestamp='1337314533' post='1776351']
Seattle sure has collected a bunch of good back up QBs. I think Wilson can be good, but not in Seattle.
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Anyone want to rethink their doubting Russell Wilson. So far he has been arguably the most impressive rookie in the league and I think he has the chance not just to start during the season (as I predicted) but could start week 1.

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Yeah, he'll start. Carroll ain't there to make friends, he's there to win games.

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Flynn will start. Seattle didn't give him that money to back up a rookie QB, yet.

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[quote name='Peppers90 NC' timestamp='1337111655' post='1773302']
staters i still find hilarious, as with their 2 pennies.
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A UNC-ch fan is butthurt because TJ Yates is the only UNC-ch QB to ever start a game. That took 2 injuries to accomplish. I also read somewhere that before TJ Yates breakout season, Phillip Rivers had thrown for more yards in a game than all UNC-ch QBs in NFL history, combined. He's done it 3 times I believe.

In closing, I believe that this UNC-ch fan's two pennies on a QB's college to pro transition is probably hilarious as well.

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[quote name='Hate' timestamp='1337314533' post='1776351']
Seattle sure has collected a bunch of good back up QBs. I think Wilson can be good, but not in Seattle.
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Meh, hes been good in seattle already. Plus, it's an oppurtunity to start right away and build a relationship with a rebuilding team.

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