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So RG3 has expressed that he doesn't want to be known as an "option quarterback" ([url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/08/robert-griffin-iii-doesnt-like-running-quarterback-stereotypes/"]link[/url]) which brings up a discussion that's been had on here numerous times, and generally leads to people saying stupid things.

Rehashing that discussion doesn't really interest me much. What [i]does[/i] interest me about this particular item from the unmentionable site is this sentence from Michael David Smith.

[quote]There’s never been an athlete quite like Griffin — a hurdler good enough that he could have been an Olympian if he hadn’t turned his attention to football — at the quarterback position.[/quote]

Now, Newton and Griffin don't quite have the same athletic profile (Griffin is 3 inches shorter and 30 pounds lighter) but I'm wondering what Panther fans have to say about Smith's proclamation that there's "never been an athlete quite like Griffin". Especially as it pertains to our own quarterback.

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he's right

they're two completely different athletes

cam's just better
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I don't see the point in needing to compare them and seek out things to interpret as knocks on Newton.

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he will be what vick was supoosed to be
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They say that about a player every year. Fact is he is a great athlete but that does not make him a great QB.

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Sorry, I just don't see the correlation. All he is saying is that RG3 could have been an Olympic hurdler. I haven't heard that about Cam or any other QB. No one has credibly compared RG3 (or any other QB for that matter) to Cam Newton since Newton showed his athletic prowess last year. A QB who is Cam's size, that has the strength of a player 30lbs heavier, but who also has the dexterity and agility of a guy 30 lbs lighter---who can actually throw the ball----is at the very least rare (if not unique), and has never been seen in the NFL.
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He can be an olympic runner

We have a future HOF'er

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[quote name='Panthro' timestamp='1339162213' post='1795803']
he will be what vick was supoosed to be[/quote]

That's actually pretty close to my take. Griffin is what Vick would have been if he had a working brain.

Waiting to see how he'll be as a passer though. My gut says he'll be better than Vick. Not ready to buy he'll be as good in that department as Newton is though.

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a hurdler eh? neat.

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Newton can jump over mountains and wrestle tigers.

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[quote name='csx' timestamp='1339162737' post='1795815']
Newton can jump over mountains and wrestle tigers.
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Ya know, Cam Newton jumped off the Empire State Building this one time and he only sprained his ankle.

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[quote name='Panthro' timestamp='1339162213' post='1795803'] he will be what vick was supoosed to be [/quote]

and Cam will be what Vince Young and Mcnabb were suppose to be.. but better

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[quote name='carp24000' timestamp='1339162910' post='1795819']
Ya know, Cam Newton jumped off the Empire State Building this one time and he only sprained his ankle.
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He has the strength of a herd of bears with the speed of a Cheetah, the stamina of an African wild dog and the mind of a damned scientist.

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[quote name='bLACKpANTHER' timestamp='1339163001' post='1795821']and Cam will be what Vince Young and Mcnabb were suppose to be.. but better[/quote]

Newton's a better passer than either one.

Have said it before, but will say again. As far as QB prototypes, Newton bears far more similarity to Brett Favre or John Elway (big, athletic, not [i]super[/i] accurate but near-perfect in spots and generally accurate enough to get the job done) than he does Vick, Young or McNabb.

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It's a different kind of athlete. . .but there's not a good record of track-profile athletes in the NFL. Cam, however, is what you would find in most coaches wet dreams if they were looking for the perfect quarterback.

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I see Griffin in the mold of Cunningham....who in my mind is the original "Vick". Cunningham did have prototypical height too.

Griffin threw for over 4K yards and over 70% completion rate and was an accomplished passer.. Vick never sniffed those numbers.
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rg3 is a great athlete who also plays football pretty well.

cam is a great football player who is abnormally athletic.

subtle differences.

both will be revolutionizing the position to an extent, but it was cam who set the bar and it will be cam to whom rg3 is always compared...just like any young QB who happens to be solid at both passing and running the ball.

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[quote name='rayzor' timestamp='1339163949' post='1795844']
rg3 is a great athlete who also plays football pretty well.

cam is a great football player who is abnormally athletic.

subtle differences.

both will be revolutionizing the position to an extent, but it was cam who set the bar and it will be cam to whom rg3 is always compared...just like any young QB who happens to be solid at both passing and running the ball.[/quote]

So subtle that a lot of people don't seem to get them, sadly.

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Why is that sad?

I think it's silly to say Griffin is a good athlete who plays football well. What does that really mean?

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[quote name='Mr. Scot' timestamp='1339163363' post='1795832']
Newton's a better passer than either one.

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No he's not Mr. Scot. Having a slighly stronger arm does not make you a better passer. GR3's accuracy is off the charts plus he has a rocket of an arm as well. I would put RG3's skills against Cam's anyday. The only thing Cam has over Griffin is size and strength. but its not like Giffin is a pipsqueak.

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[quote name='rayzor' timestamp='1339163949' post='1795844']


cam to whom rg3 is always compared...just like any young QB who happens to be solid at both passing and running the ball.
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No RG3 will be compared to Luck while Cam will be compared to Andy Dalton.

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[quote name='pOpCoRnPoPpEr' timestamp='1339166178' post='1795888']
No he's not Mr. Scot. Having a slighly stronger arm does not make you a better passer. GR3's accuracy is off the charts plus he has a rocket of an arm as well. I would put RG3's skills against Cam's anyday. The only thing Cam has over Griffin is size and strength. but its not like Giffin is a pipsqueak.[/quote]

BlackPanther's post was compared Newton to Vince Young and Donovan McNabb, not Griffin.

As far as Griffin's passing skills, he hasn't thrown a pass in the pros yet, so for good or bad, we're all going off college and projecting.

Even phenomenal college numbers don't always translate to NFL success. Just ask Colt Brennan, Timmy Chang or Tim Couch.

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[quote name='pOpCoRnPoPpEr' timestamp='1339166178' post='1795888']
No he's not Mr. Scot. Having a slighly stronger arm does not make you a better passer. GR3's accuracy is off the charts plus he has a rocket of an arm as well. I would put RG3's skills against Cam's anyday. [/quote]

Every QB looks great when he's throwing against the Big XII...

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I also like how shanahan wants RG3 to be in the mold of elway and not vick.

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Cam Newton .............Faster than a speeding bullet More Powerful than a Locomotive . Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound........ What has RG 111 proven?

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