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Catching the ball in tight coverage. Anytime he has to fight for the ball because a DB is right on him he loses. If its a quick throw and he has room, he looks decent.

The problem here is he is not especially fast and doesn't run overly impressive routes. When playing against first string DBs, he may not be open much.

I would rather give his snaps to Joe Adams who may turn out to be a legitimate threat at WR.
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Yeah BUT he did ALMOST catch that one ball for a TouchDown!

RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE

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Agreed. We have some unpolished gems that need some playing time. If Gettis comes back, suddenly we have a pretty big wr core. Nicely done FO/RR

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Hard to argue with any of that.

I'd rather see Adams, Green and Bryant get an opportunity.
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He certainly needs to be more agressive-- can't be a nice guy on the field. With that said, there was at least one play (throw to him in the endzone) where he had no chance because he had a Steeler completely wrapped around him-- a blown call.

Is he in the top 6 receivers out of this bunch? Honestly its hard to tell with the limited throws spread out among so many guys. I guess we'll just have to trust that Rivera/Hurney make the right call. Of course, those 5/6 guys won't been seen much anyway, so it might not matter.

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During the 2010 and 2011 seasons the team only carried 6 WRs, PR and KR included. So I'm not sure how you bend the numbers to keep Edwards when you're starting:
Smith & LaFell (1&2)
Murphy & Gettis (3&4)
Adams PR
Pilares KR
And if you need to go 5-wide, use Pilares, who is already a better receiver than AE.

That's 6 WRs on the roster....

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Guess who makes the 53 man roster? Armanti Edwards :lol: so go kick rocks bare footed. :P

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wouldnt surprise me if he gained his old job back some time this year. As great as Adams is at picking up yards hes gonna cancel it out at best this year with those fumbles. would anyone really feel confident in him during a big game high pressure situation? at least armanti can catch the ball.

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[quote name='Hokebuck' timestamp='1346414184' post='1879214']
Guess who makes the 53 man roster? Armanti Edwards :lol: so go kick rocks bare footed. :P
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Someone please go slap Hokebuck's parents for reproducing. He is the poster child for why cousins should not have sex.

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This came up in one the other threads last night. Its 100% true he can not fight for the contested catch. Tutu is even worse because he can't catch wide open passes half the time. I'm ok with cutting them both, we already have our top receivers that are reliable and hopefully 5 when Gettis comes back. I'd honestly rather use the spot on Bryant just to keep him safely on the team. That deep ball he caught was a thing of beauty that could not be done by anyone outside of our top 3 (4 with Gettis)receivers.

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[quote name='VIP' timestamp='1346414716' post='1879220']
wouldnt surprise me if he gained his old job back some time this year. As great as Adams is at picking up yards hes gonna cancel it out at best this year with those fumbles. would anyone really feel confident in him during a big game high pressure situation? at least armanti can catch the ball.
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Armanti dropped his first 6 camp punt returns with no pressure and no one running towards him.

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the problem with AE is that he is still taking up a perfectly good roster spot

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[quote name='MadHatter' timestamp='1346414823' post='1879221']
Someone please go slap Hokebuck's parents for reproducing. He is the poster child for why cousins should not have sex.
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Never even heard of this hoefug person. They are a nobody to me

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[quote name='Zod' timestamp='1346415387' post='1879236']


Armanti dropped his first 6 camp punt returns with no pressure and no one running towards him.
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which is completely irrelevant to what he is capable of doing now.

if anything that makes it even more worrisome. armanti dropped punts because he was learning. Joe Adams has been returning punts forever and he has a dropping issue. which means it might not be fixable

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[quote name='VIP' timestamp='1346415519' post='1879241']

which is completely irrelevant to what he is capable of doing now.
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You can think this through... I know you can. Really try.

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we still don't have a good punt returner and still have shitty special teams all the way around

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[quote name='Zod' timestamp='1346415602' post='1879245']

You can think this through... I know you can. Really try.
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i dunno, are you implying Adams is going to be able to fix the dropping problem he's had forever in a matter of weeks? doesnt really sound logical, like I said he isn't learning how to catch punts right now. he's done it forever

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You are right, Joe Adams can catch open passes in the slot....and has already shown to be a shifter player. I think Joe Adams will prevent AE from a roster spot after some reflection. What does AE bring to the table Joe doesn't already offer?

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Sure about that CRA? I'm not sure what people saw in Adams that makes them his something great. He looks small, and had more 4 yard punt returns than anything else.. Looks like Armanti his first year... I'm just being objective.

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[quote name='VIP' timestamp='1346415732' post='1879249']dropping problem he's had forever
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You are trying to hard.

lol

You don't get named the best returner in college football if you have a dropping problem.

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[quote name='Zod' timestamp='1346406233' post='1879147']
Catching the ball in tight coverage. Anytime he has to fight for the ball because a DB is right on him he loses. If its a quick throw and he has room, he looks decent.

The problem here is he is not especially fast and doesn't run overly impressive routes. When playing against first string DBs, he may not be open much.

I would rather give his snaps to Joe Adams who may turn out to be a legitimate threat at WR.
[/quote]agreed on all...esp. the joe adams part. i'd rather see joe adams getting snaps over pilares as well.

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[quote name='Zod' timestamp='1346416172' post='1879258']

You are trying to hard.

lol

You don't get named the best returner in college football if you have a dropping problem.
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Pretty much every draft profile of him mentions that he has a problem with drops and can't make catches in traffic.

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[quote name='Zod' timestamp='1346416172' post='1879258']
You are trying to hard.

lol

You don't get named the best returner in college football if you have a dropping problem.
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uhh his dropping problem (passes and punts) is well established lol. i thought you were knowledgeable

thats another problem for him in the pros. The return yards are much harder to come by but the drops remain. like i said, i dont trust him at all in a high pressure punt situation. Armanti didn't lose a punt all season last year (in real games!) id much rather have Adams returning kickoffs where his muffs wont be a big deal and he can still showcase his playmaking. Armanti might not get jack **** for yards but muffed punt turnovers are about as deflating for a team as you can get, and Adams has a big problem there. thats just a fact.

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[quote name='VIP' timestamp='1346416734' post='1879270']

uhh his dropping problem (passes and punts) is well established lol. i thought you were knowledgeable
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Passes yes, just like Lafell. That problem is fixable.

Haven't seen him dropping punts mentioned.

Derp.

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You are trying to hard.

lol

You don't get named the best returner in college football if you have a dropping problem.
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:o


Weaknesses: Adams has fumbled a little bit too much lately – Could add a few more pounds, especially in the upperbody to protect himself from the physical NFL game, but don’t want to risk his speed – Would like to see him refine his route running a little bit more, especially if he is going to be playing in a precision passing system.


Hands: Another suspect area of Adams’ game are his hands. He seeming has concentration lapses, attempting to take off and run, before properly securing the football. His 2011 Sugar Bowl performance against Ohio State highlights several instances of his consistent inconsistency when it comes to catching the football. This is another reason I listed Shumer’s offense as a great fit for Adams, as it will allow him to turn back to the QB on screens and simply wait for the ball before creating in space, rather than forcing him into situations where he’s having to keep his head on a swivel over the middle of the field while concentrating on the catch.


Negatives -- Undersized, is one of the smaller receivers in this draft and can get overpowered by larger corners... Ran slower than expected at the combine... Never was a prolific receiver at Arkansas, never had a 1,000 yard season and only scored three touchdowns as a senior... Seemed to disappear in big games, did not record a catch against Texas A&M, had three catches against LSU, and five catches for 22 yards in the Cotton Bowl... Size is an issue when asked to run block, has a hard time engaging... Has some ball security issues.

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