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With Kalil Gone...


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  1. 1. With Kalil Out do we go back to basics on Offense

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Do you think we go back to basics?

Kalil is arguably the best center in the NFL. There's no doubt that his loss will hurt this team and perhaps even it's philosophy. On any given play you could catch Kalil out in the flats and upfield while pulling to block. I suspect that those days me be over for this offense.

Rivera admitted to changing his play call in the Seahawks game and not running Cam on a Sneak on 4th down against the Seahawks. I'm just wondering if it will continue to change our philosophy on the offensive side of the ball.

I suspect this should open up more playing time for Jonathan Stewart in passing situations to add some more blocking support. Jonathan is a beast in pass support as we all know. I'm also of the opinion that we may even do more conventional plays out of the backfield. More north to south and runs off of the guards and tackles.

It will be interesting to see how we adjust moving forward. I hope that we can overcome it, but my gut says that we won't. At a minimum we may see exponentially less of the read option though. I guess we'll see come Sunday. I figured this could generate some good conversation until then though.

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I doubt it.

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Thats precisely what the Cowboys will expect us to do.

Instead, double reverse run option flea flicker.
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sure, a basic hook and lateral, a basic statue of liberty, a basic triple option, a basic double pass...

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Anyone know if Kalil was "designated for return"? or do we have another IR player with that. Meaning he can come back off IR at any point in the season.

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Also expecting to see more Double TE sets as well

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God I hope so but with this coaching staff i doubt it.

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[quote name='chknwing' timestamp='1350308742' post='1947114']
Anyone know if Kalil was "designated for return"? or do we have another IR player with that. Meaning he can come back off IR at any point in the season.
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Wasn't designated for return...done for year

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I really hope they start running some more straight power plays TBH, our o-line gets a lot less athletic so stringing plays out sideline to sideline won't be good for our o-line, which means the read option is not a good idea. Plays take too long to develop

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it would make a lot of sense to cut out the flashy stuff and to try and get cam to get the ball out of his hands earlier. it would make a lot of sense to use the RBs and pound the cowboys to death. it would make sense to use a lot of screen passes. it would make sense to have cam spread the ball around to other receivers instead of focusing the game on just him and smitty.

don't see any of that happening. i see chud sitting there at his desk trying to outsmart everyone and come up with something that nobody has ever thought of before. that one play that will turn everything around and turn momentum our way.

i see cam thinking that it's up to him to win or lose and at the first sign of a mistake lose faith in himself and takes the whole team with him.

ugh.

the only thing that gives me any bit of optimism this game is that we are facing the biggest choke artist in the league. this is a game that the cowboys should win. that doesn't usually work out for them, esp. this year.

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with Kalil out, and not having a stable middle on that oline, thats gonna force chud to be even more flashy and have cam running around more. dont look for any rb draws up the middle for the remainder of the year.

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ground and punt, err pound

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[quote name='TruCatzFan' timestamp='1350307914' post='1947108']
I suspect this should open up more playing time for Jonathan Stewart in passing situations to add some more blocking support. Jonathan is a beast in pass support as we all know.
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This is conventional wisdom around here, but it's just not true. Jonathon has consistently been one of the worst pass blocking RB's in the league.

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I don't expect any changes. Why change something that is so flashy. Even if your Ferrari does not start its still a Ferrari right?.... Right?

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Like a ferrari with no spark plugs

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Tolbert is great in pass pro though....just wanna line up in the I formation or singleback, just having our QB under center running normal plays would be great. How is he supposed to grow as a player if the offensive system is holding him back

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We'll probably see more plays from the Rick Moranis playbook.

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[quote name='Zod' timestamp='1350308382' post='1947110']
Thats precisely what the Cowboys will expect us to do.

Instead, double reverse run option flea flicker.
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Hey, we ran that play Saturday in our 5-7 year old flag football game. We fooled those little 49ers bastards and dropped 45 points on them. My defense only gave up one first down because the 16 year old referee was blind! For $7 a game youd think they could get better refs. I run a 2-5 zone defense that is beast mode. Only been scored on twice.

Feel free to reach out to me Chud and Ron. I'll be glad to offer a clinic at your offices.

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And why must we play action on every pass play? Cam is a play action in its self he is always a threat to run with it. So the play action every play is kinda stupid as well. I think most of our problem most of the time is Chus tries to get to cute.

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[quote name='NeedSumD' timestamp='1350327463' post='1947346']
And why must we play action on every pass play? Cam is a play action in its self he is always a threat to run with it. So the play action every play is kinda stupid as well. I think most of our problem most of the time is Chus tries to get to cute.
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Not true. We run a play action fake (whether under center or a fake handoff in the gun) way less than 50% of the time. I think we need to run fake much more than we do now on passing downs.

Between the formations we run and the lack of fakes, it is very easy for a defense to know ahead of time what we are doing.

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Should we or will we?

I think we should

I think we won't

I believe they spent the entire off-season thinking they were so clever with this option stuff and we are going to live and die by it this season.

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Seems like the huddle is pretty split on this thus far. 13 people think we will go back to basics while 11 of you think we won't.

This Sunday will be interesting for a number of reasons concerning this team. The Staff has had two weeks to prepare for Dallas and review/change/tweak their gameplan/philosophies. The loss of Kalil no doubt will be a major blow to that line.

I'm gonna try to go into this game with a level head, but if we get that offense rolling and the defensive front that showed up down in ATL can put some pressure on Romo, we might just get Dallas to beat themselves.

Still waiting to hear if Claiborne and Murray will be out or not.

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Where is everyone's faith in Geoff Hangartner? I have faith in the man. He's blocked down the field, pretty well too. He's played center before, here and in Buffalo, and hopefully understands Chud's playbook as well as anyone on that line. Who knows, maybe he can calm Cam down, get him to decide faster. Or get everyone else to do what they're supposed to and enjoy the game.


And hahahahahahahahaha at everyone that didn't believe me when I said that Geoff would be center if Kalil went down. :roadrage:

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