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"Wins Have To Come... Guys Are Working Hard" - Gross

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What you think about the this team don't quit video on Panthers.com and Gross comments

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They're saying what they need to say. I honestly don't care, probably a bad attitude to have, but the season is all but over.

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This attitude was missing the first part of the season. They're a little bit too late now.

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I can't disagree. ThE team hasn't quit yet and it's a credit to their dedication. Most of the team have played hard every game even though there have been some chokes and unlucky breaks.
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Who cares

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"Players are working hard, the staff and every other accompanying group are not"

That's what I get from that.

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I agree. I haven't seen them quit, they're just not putting it together.

There is a funk on this team. They haven't broken through it, especially on offense. They really did well last week racking up 400 yards on road against the top defense. Except they didn't finish drives: they were 25% in the redzone.

Forget Rivera not going for it. They could've done better in the redzone and it wouldn't have ever mattered that he chose to hail marry. For all we know, this could've been a gamble Rivera took to break this team out of it. Something big to pump them up for the first time in months. Cam didn't really make that choice look smart. I don't believe Rivera is that smart but damn, that might have been a jumpstart to wake them up.

This teams moto needs to be: "Make big plays and finish them"

This is why I'd prefer to keep DeAngelo. He's a legitimate home run threat. Stewart needs early carries and he can receive as well. I like DeAngelo against tired defenses better.
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Hey did yall know there is a game on tonight?

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[quote name='The_Mango55' timestamp='1351813907' post='1975517']
I can't disagree. ThE team hasn't quit yet and it's a credit to their dedication. Most of the team have played hard every game even though there have been some chokes and unlucky breaks.
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I agree. The effort is there. It is the results that have been so dissappointing. No one saw the implosion that is our Offense coming.

Last week we learned that the two TE set is still vialble. Hartstock and Barny are not world beaters, but they can at least help keep the D honest.

If, if, if, we can ever stop shooting ourselves in the foot. We just may be a pretty good football team.

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A lot of it comes down to our schemes and game planning. Our coaches needed to understand that you utilize what you have...not try and mold them into a college style offense. We are built for traditional runs and play action. Use Cam's athletic ability...don't put the entire offense on his shoulders.

We looked way more efficient vs Chicago (except for the red zone)

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Go for the draft picks, the season is over!!

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[i]Sometimes one has to work smarter along with working harder.[/i]

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All I get out of these vids is Mike Craft is one big mofo. Greg Hardy looked like a stick next to him.

I guarantee you could cut Craft in half at the waist and the top half of his body would still weigh more than most normal people.

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I know what it says, that the coach hasn't lost the locker room.
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I am happy to see it and I hope they kick ass the rest of the way.

Somehow this organization needs to figure out how to start out strong at the begining of the season.

Seems like more often than not, the Panthers only get it together once the season is half over.

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[quote name='pantherclaw' timestamp='1351832421' post='1975836']
I know what it says, that the coach hasn't lost the locker room.
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i hope not.

i hope that rivera helps get this team turned around and that he stays.

i don't expect it, but i hope it.

i really don't want to see the team dismantled again and have to go through another rebuilding process. i want the new GM to be the only real needed change this offseason.

the team needs to have good morale going forward. another dismantling and rebuild could have very negative effects and there's no gaurantee that the next crew coming in will be any better than the one we have.

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[quote name='Argus Plexus' timestamp='1351814695' post='1975528']
Who cares
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I would hope that you and everyone else who spends most of their days discussing the team here would care....or why would you be here?

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They just have to learn how to finish. We've had the lead late in all, but one game. If we could've finished strong on just half of our losses we'd be sitting at 4 & 3. Its really shocking how close we've been to winning games, just to see them slip away....and we had the same problem last season. In two seasons we've lost a total of 12 games by 7 or fewer...somethings got to give!
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[quote name='csx' timestamp='1351862348' post='1975990']


I would hope that you and everyone else who spends most of their days discussing the team here would care....or why would you be here?
[/quote]Beyond the happiness of finally seeing them show up for once, a win at this point is, well, pointless.

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Herm Edwards 'You play to win the game'.

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We see what happened to him...

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[quote name='Argus Plexus' timestamp='1351892925' post='1976596']
Beyond the happiness of finally seeing them show up for once, a win at this point is, well, pointless.
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Wins are anything but pointless.

All we've talked about for weeks is the losing mentality that has permeated the team for the last few years. The only way to turn that around is with wins. Think about draft position in week 15. Wins need to come now.

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[quote name='Marguide' timestamp='1351893408' post='1976604']
Wins are anything but pointless.

All we've talked about for weeks is the losing mentality that has permeated the team for the last few years. The only way to turn that around is with wins. Think about draft position in week 15. Wins need to come now.
[/quote]I have a strange feeling they're going to win this weekend. I'm probably wrong but whatever.

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[quote name='Argus Plexus' timestamp='1351894552' post='1976629']
I have a strange feeling they're going to win this weekend. I'm probably wrong but whatever.
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I do too. Actually, I think they're about to go on a roll, largely because of the change in offensive playcalling and the improved D.

But maybe that's just wishful thinking.

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[quote name='Marguide' timestamp='1351894738' post='1976635']
I do too. Actually, I think they're about to go on a roll, largely because of the change in offensive playcalling and the improved D.

But maybe that's just wishful thinking.
[/quote]They have refined the act of disappointing their fanbase down to a science.

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This will sound crazy... But I don't really think there's any way we lose this game at all. It's almost like... What does it matter? Therefore they will stomp Washington. I'm not calling a W... Because that's bad luck, but I have a really weird feeling that it won't even be close.
And yes, I know that's crazy talk

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