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The Success of Chip Kelly. The New Old School


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[color=#000000][font=Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif][size=4]f Oregon wins the BCS title this year — they are my pick to do so, though they have suffered a number of tough injuries on defense — I'm certain that Chip Kelly will be coaching next season in the NFL. Those who know Kelly well say [url="http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/dennis-dodd/20900771/bellotti-inevitable-that-chip-kelly-leaves-for-the-nfl"]it's "inevitable,"[/url]and his name, along with his friend Jon Gruden's, will be at the top of nearly every NFL coaching search. But despite all his success, there are those who still like to label his offense a gimmick, or, more practically, wonder if it's possible to run a spread offense in the NFL, given the beating a quarterback might endure.[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#000000][font=Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif][size=4]This misunderstands Kelly's attack. "I look for a quarterback who can run and not a running back who can throw. I want a quarterback who can beat you with his arm," Kelly explained at a coaches clinic [/size][/font][/color][url="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1606791710/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1606791710&linkCode=as2&tag=chrisbrownsfo-20"]in the spring of 2011[/url][color=#000000][font=Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif][size=4], emphatically adding, "We are not a Tim Tebow type of quarterback team. I am not going to run my quarterback 20 times on power runs."[/size][/font][/color]


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[color=#000000][font=Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif][size=4]Kelly explained that he merely needs a quarterback who, if the defense "forces" him to run, "can do it effectively." Although this rules out some of the NFL's best quarterbacks — from Peyton Manning to Tom Brady — it doesn't mean that his offense requires Cam Newton or RG3. Every year, the high school and college ranks are producing more and more quarterbacks who [/size][/font][/color][url="http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7857323/andrew-luck-robert-griffin-iii-future-nfl-quarterback"]aren't utterly devoid of athleticism[/url][color=#000000][font=Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif][size=4].[/size][/font][/color][sup][url="http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8631595/the-success-chip-kelly-oregon-ducks-offense-more-familiar-seems#footnote4"]4[/url][/sup]
[color=#000000][font=Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif][size=4]Time will undoubtedly tell whether Kelly's offense can work in the NFL, but my vote is that it will. It would require Kelly finding the right players, but a Chip Kelly–coached NFL team would win for the same reasons that the Chip Kelly–coached college team wins. Behind the speed, the spread, the Daft Punk helmets, and the flashy uniforms, Oregon ultimately wins with old-fashioned, fundamental, run-it-up-the-gut football. I think everyone, even fans of the spread offense, can appreciate that.[/size][/font][/color]

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Not been a fan of him coming here, but lately I've began to like the idea. I think Kelly is smart enough to taylor an NFL style offense. We may have the most attractive QB in his eyes. Cam would allow him to still have SOME of his college plays while still being able to run pro sets. As long as he has little to do with the D i'd be cool with him.

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Hopefully Chip wont end up like Nick Saban and will be able to bring his effective scheme and recruiting abilities to Carolina. If he comes here we can expect all blue uniforms!! Unfortunately the all blacks will become unlucky for this franchise if we lose like we did against Denver.

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I don't know how many times I gotta say it, Chip Kelly for head coach.

The man WILL have success at the professional level.

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Said the same about Spurrier, Saban, Petrino, etc.

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[quote name='Jackofalltrades' timestamp='1352941322' post='2000069']
Said the same about Spurrier, Saban, Petrino, etc.
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Those guys didn't have something that Chip would have. Cam Newton.

Chip and Cam would revolutionize the league.

Rivera has one of the best athlete/QB's of all time right now and has no idea how to maximize his potential.

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The more I read about him the more I like him. I just want to see what he does against a David Shaw Stanford football team this Saturday.

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Greg Shiano says hi, btw

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[quote name='Bwood' timestamp='1352941548' post='2000074']Rivera has one of the best athlete/QB's of all time right now and has no idea how to maximize his potential.
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He did ok last season...

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If you can win games in the PAC-10, you have what it takes to be an NFL coach?

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[quote name='megadeth078' timestamp='1352942197' post='2000083']
If you can win games in the PAC-10, you have what it takes to be an NFL coach?
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Obviously.

That's like the NFL Lite.

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[quote name='TruCatzFan' timestamp='1352942032' post='2000081']
Greg Shiano says hi, btw
[/quote]people forget about Pete Carroll too

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[quote name='megadeth078' timestamp='1352942197' post='2000083']
If you can win games in the PAC-10, you have what it takes to be an NFL coach?
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[quote name='Jackofalltrades' timestamp='1352942329' post='2000085']


Obviously.

That's like the NFL Lite.
[/quote]so what exactly do you have against college coaches other than Steve spurrier? Saban wasn't even that bad and peterinos just an idiot

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[quote name='megadeth078' timestamp='1352942197' post='2000083']
If you can win games in the PAC-10, you have what it takes to be an NFL coach?
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[img]http://cdn1.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/4977071/135745722_extra_large_medium.jpg[/img]

The real question, can NFL coaches, coach in the PAC?
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[quote name='panthers04100' timestamp='1352942647' post='2000097']
so what exactly do you have against college coaches other than Steve spurrier? Saban wasn't even that bad and peterinos just an idiot
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They rarely succeed in the NFL.

Carroll had 15 years of NFL experience before Seattle. He also ran a real offense at USC.

Harbaugh has just working his way to the NFL, everyone knew that's where he would wind up, he also ran a pro offense.

Schiano is half way thru his first season, too early to judge.

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Over time I am beginning to love the idea of Chip Kelly, Bwood has been saying it for quite sometime. He is really something at Oregon and I believe he would be a fantastic NFL head coach, I say bring em in I'm on the bandwagon now

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[quote name='Bullethead527' timestamp='1352943253' post='2000109']
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The real question, can NFL coaches, coach in the PAC?
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He's doing good on the recruiting end. Next year will be telling if UCLA is going in the right direction.

The good news is it should be perfect timing if Cam flakes out to grab Hundley in 2016 (JOKE)

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[quote name='Jackofalltrades' timestamp='1352943736' post='2000122']
They rarely succeed in the NFL.

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Most coaches don't succeed in the NFL regardless of origin. Being an NFL head coach is really, really tough.
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Personally I don't care where they come from if the can get the job done, I'm just very skeptical about college coaches using us as their test run. If they've coached in the NFL before I feel better about it, but to me Kelly looks to be the proto-typical college coach who runs a gimmick offense that just won't succeed at the NFL level.
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It probably wouldn't work in the NFL. But as someone else said, Chip Kelly is smart enough to realize this. He would have to incorporate some of what he does at Oregon into a NFL offense. I believe he can do this.

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Kelly's offense (unlike Chud's) runs the ball with his RBs very effectively...and they aren't gimmicky runs. They are well blocked runs. If it came down to another coordinator or Chip Kelly then I'd take Kelly. HC experience matters...especially with this QB.
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I dont know much about him other than a few articles posted here. Would Kelly take an OC position or straight to HC, no questions asked?

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[quote name='j2sgam' timestamp='1352949278' post='2000257']
I dont know much about him other than a few articles posted here. Would Kelly take an OC position or straight to HC, no questions asked?
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I don't think he comes to the NFL as an OC. He's a pretty hot item ATM. He'll get a HC job off jump street.

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