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A quick Look back at Chud

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[quote][color=#000000][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4]After drawing the head-coaching interest last offseason, Chudzinski was criticized early this season when the Panthers scored 14 points or fewer in four of their first six games. But Chudzinski streamlined his zone-read package, eliminating some of the extraneous, wide receiver motions, and the Panthers improved over the second half of the season.[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#000000][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4]The Panthers finished 7th and 12th in total offense in two years under Chudzinski, a former University of Miami tight end who was the Hurricanes’ offensive coordinator when they won the national championship in 2001.[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#000000][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4]In Chudzinski's first season, the Panthers led the league with 90 plays of 20 yards or more and scored 48 touchdowns after scoring a franchise-low 17 touchdowns in 2010. The Panthers broke team records with 6,237 total yards and 345 first downs in 2011, and posted the second-best marks in both categories this past season.[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#000000][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4]Chudzinski's departure leaves Rivera and new general manager Dave Gettleman, who was hired Wednesday, with five assistant coaching vacancies. Rivera fired special teams coordinator BrianMurphy in November, and let three assistants go this week – running backs coach John Settle, receivers coach Fred Graves and linebackers coach Warren Belin.[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#000000][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4]Chudzinski, who was a Browns' fan while growing up in Toledo, had two stints in Cleveland as anassistant coach.[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#000000][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4]Chudzinski was the Browns’ tight ends coach in 2004 before Butch Davis and his staff were fired.[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#000000][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4]After spending two years as San Diego’s tight ends coach, he returned to Cleveland as the offensive coordinator under Romeo Crennel.[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#000000][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4]The Browns finished 10-6 in 2007, ranked eighth in total offense and had four Pro Bowl players, including quarterback Derek Anderson, now the backup to Newton in Charlotte.[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#000000][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4]But injuries to Anderson and other starters the following year contributed to a 4-12 record that cost Crennel his job. Chudzinski again went back to San Diego, where he worked with Rivera on Turner’s staff.[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#000000][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=4]Panthers scout Ken Dorsey, a Browns quarterback when Chudzinski coached there, also could be among the Carolina staffers who go with Chudzinski to Cleveland.[/size][/font][/color]

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I think to much of the huddle has taken chud for granted. He spoiled us with putting up over 24 points a game and a load of exsplosive plays. I for one and very upset with this news. Chud was the best coach in carolina for the last 2 years and maybe the best offensive mind we've evere had.
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He did it with derek anderson 2. so it cant be just cam.
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[quote name='micnificent28' timestamp='1357879785' post='2089693']
He did it with derek anderson 2. so it cant be just cam.
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are you just fugging with me?

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he only changed his schemes because half of our offensive line got injured and ended up on the bench

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Just because he can put together a few risky explosive plays does not make him some mastermind that turned this offense around. Let's not forget the screen passes he calls at our own endzone and the read-option plays when we are trying to hold a lead late in the 4th. Let's also not forget how the unanimous best pair of RBs in the NFL quickly turned into an afterthought when playing against Carolina.

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[quote name='ButWhysTheRumGone' timestamp='1357879979' post='2089703']
are you just fugging with me?
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what are u getting at its a fact.... and the fact that with chud we ve had the best offense in panthers history kind of says im right. Chud was brilliant.

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what are u getting at its a fact.... and the fact that with chud we ve had the best offense in panthers history kind of says im right. Chud was brilliant.
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1. Were the panthers...soooo.......

and 2. if he was so brilliant why were we still running the spread option when it wasnt working for weeks on end.

like i said before in another thread. chud is a really smart guy. but he has no grasp of the ebbs and flows of the game. 3rd and one read option in shotgun formation when we have a 6'6" 250 lb mobile qb, and the running back group formerly known as double trouble.

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Chud came close to becoming a HC after the 2011 season. Most Panther fans were thrilled he even came back. As the Panther's OC this past season, at times, it seemed like he was more interested in showing us how smart and innovative he was rather than winning games. His stubbornness to adjust was a major factor in the 2-8 start, IMO. He is a good offensive mind, but I'm not worried about him leaving. As long as we have #1 behind center, we'll be alright.

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He made a lot more horrible calls than he did good. Some things he called in certain situation were just complete head scratching wtf moments. That happened more than twice a game

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[quote name='PhillyB' timestamp='1357880141' post='2089714']
he only changed his schemes because half of our offensive line got injured and ended up on the bench
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Source?

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Finishing 7th and 12th overall in offence doesn't mean much when we missed the playoffs both years.

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[quote name='Second_Solution' timestamp='1357902273' post='2090111']
Finishing 7th and 12th overall in offence doesn't mean much when we missed the playoffs both years.
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It means the problem wasn't Chud!

Damn this place is dense.

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what week did JStew get injured?

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[quote name='micnificent28' timestamp='1357879413' post='2089657']
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I think to much of the huddle has taken chud for granted. He spoiled us with putting up over 24 points a game and a load of exsplosive plays. I for one and very upset with this news. Chud was the best coach in carolina for the last 2 years and maybe the best offensive mind we've evere had.
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I know some would disagree, but I think Henning was better. Took less, and did more.

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[quote name='Frizzy350' timestamp='1357880145' post='2089715']
Just because he can put together a few risky explosive plays does not make him some mastermind that turned this offense around. Let's not forget the screen passes he calls at our own endzone and the read-option plays when we are trying to hold a lead late in the 4th. Let's also not forget how the unanimous best pair of RBs in the NFL quickly turned into an afterthought when playing against Carolina.
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....fact.

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[quote name='top dawg' timestamp='1357917616' post='2090385']
I know some would disagree, but I think Henning was better. Took less, and did more.
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Took less? Henning required stud RBs and 3 legit WRs and still couldn't score more than 21 points unless it was against the Patriots in the super bowl. Watching Henning ball was torture.

Please don't say that again.

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[quote name='Way Truth Life' timestamp='1357917827' post='2090395']

Took less? Henning required stud RBs and 3 legit WRs and still couldn't score more than 21 points unless it was against the Patriots in the super bowl. Watching Henning ball was torture.

Please don't say that again.
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Are you trying to tell me that we don't have the best trio of RBs in the league? And we do have this QB named Cam Newton. Let's not forget Greg Olsen, LaFell and Murphy (for what their worth). I can easily argue that this team is more talented on offense (even though we are sans Muhammad). We just have to put these fine tools into the right hands.

Was it so-called "Henning ball" or Foxball that was the real thorn in our side?

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[quote name='top dawg' timestamp='1357918676' post='2090432']
Are you trying to tell me that we don't have the best trio of RBs in the league? And we do have this QB named Cam Newton. Let's not forget Greg Olsen, LaFell and Murphy (for what their worth). I can easily argue that this team is more talented on offense (even though we are sans Muhammad). We just have to put these fine tools into the right hands.

Was it so-called "Henning ball" or Foxball that was the real thorn in our side?
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Henning's offense required more components and scored MUCH less....so....NO it was not as effective as Chuds.

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henning got sucked in to the john fox turbine. you can't look at henning in a vacuum because fox had veto power over every play called on offense.

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henning got sucked in to the john fox turbine. you can't look at henning in a vacuum because fox had veto power over every play called on offense.
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Look at Miami the years after. Ran the same offense with less talent. They sucked.

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[quote name='Way Truth Life' timestamp='1357918852' post='2090445']

Henning's offense required more components and scored MUCH less....so....NO it was not as effective as Chuds.
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You're entitled to your opinion. Chud was arguably the biggest root of our problem this past season. He misused his tools. Let him take his cute ugliness to Cleveland. He will fit right in. We'll see what an offensive savant he is there, plus we'll see if it was more of a case that he was actually hindering Cam and our offense here.

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[quote name='Way Truth Life' timestamp='1357917468' post='2090377']

It means the problem wasn't Chud!

Damn this place is dense.
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So implementing what was basically a college offence this past season wasn't a big part of why we missed the play-offs?

Chud was a big reason why we finished with a losing record this season.

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[quote name='Way Truth Life' timestamp='1357919246' post='2090462']
Look at Miami the years after. Ran the same offense with less talent. They sucked.
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i'm not about to stand up for the guy by any means.

i also don't buy the notion that he did "more with less" because i'd kill for a smith-in his prime moose-proehl WR corps right now myself.
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[quote name='Second_Solution' timestamp='1357919286' post='2090465']
So implementing what was basically a college offence this past season wasn't a big part of why we missed the play-offs?

Chud was a big reason why we finished with a losing record this season.
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NO

Losing 5 4th quarter leads and 6 2nd half leads is the PROBLEM!!!

Clock management, poor defense adjustments in the 4th and Rivera's inexperience at closing out games is the reason we missed the playoffs.

DAMN THIS PLACE IS DENSE!!!!

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