Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Cam Newton was a "different guy" heading into 2012 per Ross Tucker (called out his work ethic)

92 posts in this topic

Posted · Report post

[quote name='mr beauxjangles' timestamp='1357937864' post='2091156']


Cam Newton's work ethic was and has been discussed ad nauseam from pre-draft through today. The guy made a positive comment about Chud having a good influence on Cam, improving his work ethic, and everyone gets all bent out of shape. My point was simply that no one would have cared enough about Rob Chudzinski before today. It's true. When news breaks, reports go looking for stories and quotes and call the people whose numbers they have to look for reactions. Big frickin deal. The guy didn't insult Cam. Get a grip.
[/quote]

From the OP
"Tucker credits outgoing OC Rob Chudzinski with turning Newton around after his work ethic and commitment were spotty at the beginning of the season. "I think he did a fantastic job with Cam Newton last year, and even helping him recover this year," Tucker said of Chudzinski. "I had heard, even in training camp, that Cam Newton was a different guy from a work ethic standpoint. "

I'm not an apologist that thinks Cam can do no wrong, but if you don't think that this isn't a rip on Cam, then I don't think you read it.
The timing of the story is just strange. Cam has work ethic issues that Chud fixed and the media sat on this story until Chud leaves? It just seems weird to me.
1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

LOL, isn't it funny how much Cam's work ethic improved when Rivera got a handle on the offensive playcalling during the bye???

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

It seems like every month someone has no new material, so they just go the bash Cam Newton route.
1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

So when Bradford goes through a sophomore slump, it's the coaches fault - but when Cam does it's because he's lazy.

See the double standard yet?
1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

The only thing Chud "pulled out" was his head out of his own ass, with some strong encouragement from coach Rivera.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='carpanfan96' timestamp='1357929378' post='2090849']
Ross Tucker is a sports writer that used to work for SI and ESPN, currently works for Sports USA. Also the host of SirusXM NFL channnel's morning show. Also works for NBC and is one of the host of NBC Sports Talk. Wonder who he got that from? Maybe it was from Chud?



Edit: He's a pretty damn smart guy, so I doubt he would've said anything unless it came from somewhere close to the team. That's why I said maybe Chud said something about it.
[/quote]

Ross Tucker has deadlines to meet like everyone else... so when every other angle of the coaching hire in CLE has already been discussed, you make one up at the expense of Cam since he's become the NFL's resident "bad guy".

See how easy that is?
1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

Cam was also the gunman on the grassy knoll back in '63 in-case you didn't know.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

Anyone notice that the people that just don't like Cam find every opportunity to find a slip up or a crack and pounce when it looks like something bad will happen. But when things are going good they are SILENT??
1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='Khaki Lackey' timestamp='1357937048' post='2091123']
Do you honestly think that the media would sit on a story about Cam's poor work ethic during the beginning of our season?
[/quote]

Yeah, it's funny how bullshit about Cam always comes up months later.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='Khaki Lackey' timestamp='1357938625' post='2091188']


From the OP
"Tucker credits outgoing OC Rob Chudzinski with turning Newton around after his work ethic and commitment were spotty at the beginning of the season. "I think he did a fantastic job with Cam Newton last year, and even helping him recover this year," Tucker said of Chudzinski. "I had heard, even in training camp, that Cam Newton was a different guy from a work ethic standpoint. "

I'm not an apologist that thinks Cam can do no wrong, but if you don't think that this isn't a rip on Cam, then I don't think you read it.
The timing of the story is just strange. Cam has work ethic issues that Chud fixed and the media sat on this story until Chud leaves? It just seems weird to me.
[/quote]

The media didn't sit on any story. Chid was hired, a reporter went looking for a quote on Chud, and got one from this guy. He mentioned that Chud helped improve his work ethic. What's wrong with that? Everyone isn't out to get Cam. Chill. It's just a quote about Chud being respectable and helpful in Cam's development.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='mr beauxjangles' timestamp='1357947825' post='2091478']


The media didn't sit on any story. Chid was hired, a reporter went looking for a quote on Chud, and got one from this guy. He mentioned that Chud helped improve his work ethic. What's wrong with that? Everyone isn't out to get Cam. Chill. It's just a quote about Chud being respectable and helpful in Cam's development.
[/quote]

Questioning a players work ethic and commitment based on some unknown source is no big deal?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='Cary Kollins' timestamp='1357929272' post='2090844']
When the offense sputtered, it was all Cam's fault. When the offense became top 10, it was all Chud magic. DUH
[/quote]


I honestly think it was a bit of both.I think our lack of offensive production was on both Cam and Chud in the beginning of the year but I disagree that it was Cams work ethic.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='TheRed' timestamp='1357948263' post='2091483']


Questioning a players work ethic and commitment based on some unknown source is no big deal?
[/quote]

The guy said Chud helped him with his work ethic. Y'all have some salt in your vaginas..

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='Gabeking' timestamp='1357927942' post='2090778']
[url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6491/cam-newton"]http://www.rotoworld...6491/cam-newton[/url]



#allcamsfaultallthetime
[/quote]

Yeah, the media doesn't have Cam pegged as the next VY at all. Nope, not at all.

And, Cam has been victim to all these "unnamed sources" saying alot about him and his family sinces his days at Auburn, so it's no surprise when they keep coming out at will saying exactly what folks in the media want them to say about Cam.
1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='mr beauxjangles' timestamp='1357950736' post='2091529']
The guy said Chud helped him with his work ethic. Y'all have some salt in your vaginas..
[/quote]

Funny how no one has ever questioned Tebow's or any of the other media chosen QB's work ethics.

Let's stop being so gullible. Cam is automatically being scapegoated as a lazy QB who doesn't have good work ethics and is immature. That is the mold those in the media have painted of him since his draft days without an ounce of proof but their 'Unnamed sources."

How coincedental that Chud would get full credit for Cam's work ethics and not Cam himself. The blantant stereteotyping continues. It's sad that whomever have to play the media's game by trying to take credit for Cam's work ethics to Chud as if, you know, he's nothing but a "lazy man" with Chud, the coach pushing him. Yeah, let's continue pushing the media perception of Cam, just to make Chud look good.
2 people like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='jarhead' timestamp='1357949065' post='2091502']


I honestly think it was a bit of both.I think our lack of [b]offensive production was on both Cam and Chud [/b]in the beginning of the year but I disagree that it was Cams work ethic.
[/quote]


I now see why it's so easy for the media to always throw Cam under the bus. Some of you seriously believe that that the QB and coaches are to blame when the team fail. It's no wonder the media is more than happy to continue feeding this BS while other teams get that a team failure rest on everyone's shoulder.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

I've heard from some people Cam's work ethic is unreal. So who knows.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='footballisasport' timestamp='1357953832' post='2091642']


Funny how no one has ever questioned Tebow's or any of the other media chosen QB's work ethics.

Let's stop being so gullible. Cam is automatically being scapegoated as a lazy QB who doesn't have good work ethics and is immature. That is the mold those in the media have painted of him since his draft days without an ounce of proof but their 'Unnamed sources."

How coincedental that Chud would get full credit for Cam's work ethics and not Cam himself. The blantant stereteotyping continues. It's sad that whomever have to play the media's game by trying to take credit for Cam's work ethics to Chud as if, you know, he's nothing but a "lazy man" with Chud, the coach pushing him. Yeah, let's continue pushing the media perception of Cam, just to make Chud look good.
[/quote]

Here is the thing football how is it that in the career of every black QBs career the old questionable work ethic bull poo gets thrown around. Same with unable to read a defense.
1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='TheGreatestOfAllTimeCam' timestamp='1357955536' post='2091708']
I've heard from some people Cam's work ethic is unreal. So who knows.
[/quote]

Dude it's bull poo and typical stereotypes that the media plays on. Next they will be saying Cams a thug and comes from a single family home.

Same poo different decade.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='footballisasport' timestamp='1357953712' post='2091633']


Yeah, the media doesn't have Cam pegged as the next VY at all. Nope, not at all.

And, Cam has been victim to all these "unnamed sources" saying alot about him and his family sinces his days at Auburn, so it's no surprise when they keep coming out at will saying exactly what folks in the media want them to say about Cam.
[/quote]

The VY comparison was always rediculous to me.

I'm in Nashville, TN, and I can tell you, Cam is nothing like VY. VY was weak-minded, one thing Cam Newton is not. Immature at times, maybe, but weak-minded he is not. Cam is handling all of this very well, IMO. VY would have crumbled by now.

VY was big strong and talented, yes, but not nearly as talented as Cam, clearly. It became clear very early, that VY had a hard time reading defenses, something he could have worked on, but he was also notoriously lazy, and stayed missing meetings for BS reasons. How do I know? because local media couldnt stop talking abou it.

So yeah, If Cam had a "work ethic" issue, believe me, the media would have been ALL over it, we wouldnt have heard the end of it.

Cam's play, though not perfect, suggests that he is working very hard to get where he needs to be. You cannot do what he did these past 2 seasons with just adrenaline and natural ability (that's what ESPN would have you believe). There were many instances of quarterbacking brilliance, and there will be more to come.

Sorry for the rant, I just really, really, hate that comparison.
2 people like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

Could be true Cam was poo for the first half of the season.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='PrettyKitty' timestamp='1358005236' post='2092280']
The VY comparison was always rediculous to me.

I'm in Nashville, TN, and I can tell you, Cam is nothing like VY. VY was weak-minded, one thing Cam Newton is not. Immature at times, maybe, but weak-minded he is not. Cam is handling all of this very well, IMO. VY would have crumbled by now.

VY was big strong and talented, yes, but not nearly as talented as Cam, clearly. It became clear very early, that VY had a hard time reading defenses, something he could have worked on, but he was also notoriously lazy, and stayed missing meetings for BS reasons. How do I know? because local media couldnt stop talking abou it.

So yeah, If Cam had a "work ethic" issue, believe me, the media would have been ALL over it, we wouldnt have heard the end of it.

Cam's play, though not perfect, suggests that he is working very hard to get where he needs to be. You cannot do what he did these past 2 seasons with just adrenaline and natural ability (that's what ESPN would have you believe). There were many instances of quarterbacking brilliance, and there will be more to come.

Sorry for the rant, I just really, really, hate that comparison.
[/quote]

In all honesty, Cam behavior is no different than any of the other players. He's just made to appear that way because the media wants to mold him into an image that isn't really him.

I've always gotten the impression that the stereotyping of these players are done mostly because that is how some really want to see them. I wouldn't be surprised if Tebow is more the "me first," selfish QB who feels he's entitled to be a starting QB despite his weakness and Cam is more like Peyton Manning. But, how many of you would easily accept that reality?
1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='TheMaulClaw' timestamp='1358007260' post='2092318']
Could be true Cam was poo for the first half of the season.
[/quote]

Or...maybe it was because Chud was Poo at the first half of the season.

To think you actually went two weeks with trying to find some way of dragging down Cam with some stupid media story and accusations from "unnamed sources." I guess two weeks is longtime for some of you.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='footballisasport' timestamp='1358008469' post='2092353']
[b]In all honesty, Cam behavior is no different than any of the other players. [/b]He's just made to appear that way because the media wants to mold him into an image that isn't really him.

I've always gotten the impression that the stereotyping of these players are done mostly because that is how some really want to see them. I wouldn't be surprised if Tebow is more the "me first," selfish QB who feels he's entitled to be a starting QB despite his weakness and Cam is more like Peyton Manning. But, how many of you would easily accept that reality?
[/quote]

Two examples that readily comes to mind:

1. Cam at the pro-bowl wearing his jersey out of his pants. Media and fans alike complained. Only to find out that Rodgers and Brees both did the same thing. Apparently the NFC QBs agreed to do something different.

2. Remember the whole "OMG Cam charges for his autograph?!!" Only to find out that Tebow does the same. Well except, he charges much more. Likewise, both Mannings, Rodgers, Brees, and Brady charges too. And yep. They charged more.

I could list more, but I think we get the point.
4 people like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

Not one person has questioned Cams work ethic since he joined the league...

And for season 2 : DID YOU NOT SEE THAT GATORAID COMMERCIAL? He is in the 5th quarter..

He only does commercials if they film him working out...Beats by Dre and Windows phone commercial? Holograms

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites