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49ers outgained Ravens 182-93 (6.3-2.7 ypc) on the ground

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Ravens were ranked a modest 11th while the Niners ranked 4th in the league in 2012
Last year the Giants ranked 32nd in the rushing yards
The year before the Packers ranked 24th

...keep telling me you need to dominate on the ground to win the game guys

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they also threw for more yards than the opposing team. I thought for the most part San Francisco did a great job of moving the ball and putting up points. Just because they lost doesn't mean having a dominant ground game isn't a safe and effective way to score points.

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[quote name='Frizzy350' timestamp='1359960227' post='2123816']
they also threw for more yards than the opposing team. I thought for the most part San Francisco did a great job of moving the ball and putting up points. Just because they lost doesn't mean having a dominant ground game isn't a safe and effective way to score points.
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First of all the Ravens had better QB play tonight than the Niners, and secondly, I can't think of a whole lot of teams that have been as consistent as the panthers at running the ball well the last few years. And going back to 2010 the [url="http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/trends/win_trends/"]panthers have been bottom 3 in w/l record[/url].
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By that logic, we should've been the second best team in 2010 since we gave up the 2nd most rushing TDs

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Hey Mr. Belding Pantherclaw is usually the guy who makes pathetic attempts at undermining my points and falling on his face

If you take this away from him that'll be like the 5th job he's lost to someone else in recent memory

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both the Ravens and Giants ranked in the top ten in rush TDs given up in their respective SB championship years btw

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San Frans offense looked good, minus the turnovers. If they call four running plays(qb or rb) at the end, they score. Play calling lost them the game. Im not buying into your theory.

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[quote name='cultclassiccat' timestamp='1359964076' post='2123848']
San Frans offense looked good, minus the turnovers. If they call four running plays(qb or rb) at the end, they score. Play calling lost them the game. Im not buying into your theory.
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"I'm not buying into your theory, which is based on stats, but if the Niners just ran the ball every time at the goal line, they definitely would've won. Trust me."

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did john fox have a brain re-wiring factory he dropped so many of you morons into where you were convinced running the ball = winning and could not be dissuaded?

because it's literally impossible to deprogram your bugged minds, even after so much contradictory evidence against you.

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Mister Know It All, how many of those compared teams ran some pistol formations or had a qb similar to Kaep? And how many of those teams ran that style offense all the way to the superbowl with basically a set of downs away from the trophy?

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so seeing as how you think it would've taken only four plays for the niners to win the game (or just one running play lol), do you think the ravens would've handed it off to kill the remaining time in the fourth quarter with a 2 point deficit?

then we can definitely say play calling cost the Ravens the game in that case

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[quote name='Mister Love' timestamp='1359965225' post='2123867']
so seeing as how you think it would've taken only four plays for the niners to win the game (or just one running play lol), do you think the ravens would've handed it off to kill the remaining time in the fourth quarter with a 2 point deficit?

then we can definitely say play calling cost the Ravens the game in that case
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Mister I Know Everything, your theory doesnt apply to the new style of O thats being run with the up and coming teams in the NFL. Im sorry im not buying into your groundbreaking theory. Do we need to lead the league in rushing, no but it helps. Do we have to pass, yes and mixing it up like the 9rs, Hawks, Skins doesnt sound like a bad idea.

And yes, I think if they would have run four plays in those goaline downs, they score. So, to me, play calling certainly cost them the lead and then the focus is on the defense and this awsome thread is mute.

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So if the 49ers didn't lose the game (by 3 points btw), the running game would be vital towards getting a Lombardi and this team would "be on the right page"?

Every offense has a formula. Of course it's going to look awful when a team doesn't win games with it. It's silly to think that the Super Bowl-winning formula is the only formula capable of being successful. Saying the running game doesn't matter because the Ravens won without it, would be like saying that 109-yard kickoff returns are necessary to win next year's Super Bowl. Just because the Ravens won the championship doesn't mean they did everything perfectly and our team should just copy their gameplan like sheep.

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[quote name='Mister Love' timestamp='1359965225' post='2123867']
did john fox have a brain re-wiring factory he dropped so many of you morons into where you were convinced running the ball = winning and could not be dissuaded?

because it's literally impossible to deprogram your bugged minds, even after so much contradictory evidence against you.
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morons huh? so sorry, but do I know you? do you think your high and mighty attitude around here goes unnoticed? same arrogant posting, sad mf ... you call us morons. where the fug is your crown?

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cultclassiccat is getting so butthurt over this.

I have stats to backup my side of the argument, you have a poo ton of "what-if" mania going on in your posts. What's arrogant is not calling you guys morons, it's pretty much a response to your own arrogance. Why the fug should anybody agree with you for saying you think if they just ran the ball at the goal line they would've won, when I'm piling on stats that back up the fact that running the ball is not as important as people make it seem on the forum?

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[quote name='megadeth078' timestamp='1359967112' post='2123879']
So if the 49ers didn't lose the game (by 3 points btw), the running game would be vital towards getting a Lombardi and this team would "be on the right page"?

Every offense has a formula. Of course it's going to look awful when a team doesn't win games with it. It's silly to think that the Super Bowl-winning formula is the only formula capable of being successful.
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The Panthers selling out to the read-option offense this past year cost us.

[quote] Just because the Ravens won the championship doesn't mean they did everything perfectly and our team should just copy their gameplan like sheep.[/quote]

their franchise model is world's better than ours and has been for years, so yea taking a few pages from their book would help

[quote]Saying the running game doesn't matter because the Ravens won without it, would be like saying that 109-yard kickoff returns are necessary to win next year's Super Bowl.[/quote]

this would actually be more accurately analogous to saying that good special teams helps a lot, and if not for a bunch of special teams gaffes on the Ravens' part against the Broncos several weeks ago that game would not have made it to overtime.

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if you cant see that your argument is one sided and doesnt include a new variable, that is the mobile qb, then you sir are the moron.

a long overdue block in 3....2.....1......

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35 years old and he still can't take it when someone calls him a moron

go ahead and press that block button nancy

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[quote name='Mister Love' timestamp='1359969387' post='2123894']
35 years old and he still can't take it when someone calls him a moron

go ahead and press that block button nancy
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listen up. your god almightyness is laughable, so are your witty name calling attempts. i point out a flaw in your STATS and you cant come up with a logical retort and have to do what other grownups such as yourself do and call people morons and nancys. yes, im actually tired of reading your posts, sorry if that hurts your e-boy ego.

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no cultclassiccat don't block me, keep enlightening me on this new concept of the "mobile qb" which has been around for at least 20 years

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The 49ers also turned it over twice while Baltimore only turned it over once, SF was only 22% on 3rd down while Baltimore was 55%, SF was 33% inside the 20 while Baltimore was 50%, SF had 150% more penalties, and SF gave up that ludicrous return touchdown. You're cherry-picking a stat.

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i get your premise mister love. the rules in the nfl favor a passing game. running the football will still be important but you dont have to be #1 rushing to be successful. and you definitely dont need 2 first round picks to run the ball!

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i think honestly we need to do like the giants and falcons and get our young qb some more weapons outside. we cant keep trying to hide our qbs behind a strong run game.

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[quote name='Mister Love' timestamp='1359959520' post='2123809']
Ravens were ranked a modest 11th while the Niners ranked 4th in the league in 2012
Last year the Giants ranked 32nd in the rushing yards
The year before the Packers ranked 24th

...keep telling me you need to dominate on the ground to win the game guys
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Obviously dominating in the ground game makes you lose. Now I understand thabks

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[quote name='Mister Love' timestamp='1359959520' post='2123809']
Ravens were ranked a modest 11th while the Niners ranked 4th in the league in 2012
Last year the Giants ranked 32nd in the rushing yards
The year before the Packers ranked 24th

...keep telling me you need to dominate on the ground to win the game guys
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I don't think anyone believes you absolutely have to dominate on the ground to win, but there is no doubt it helps. The forty niners made a few more mistakes (turnovers, key penalties) than the Ravens did, and in the end, that is what cost them the game.

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