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I am beginning to believe we will draft Sheldon Richardson

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This is not based on who I want to draft but the more I learn about Gettlemen the more I feel this will be his pick. My guess is we will keep Gross and try to shave some from his salary unless E Fisher falls which I doubt he will.

He seems to like the athletic dlinemen and Richardson or Floyd for that matter fits that mold.Another reason is this years wr class is not elite but deep, and feel we can grab an upgrade in the 2nd round .

Not that I am good at this but I did pick Luke as our number 1 pick last year based on the severity of the injury to Beason and Cam the year before.

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[quote name='jarhead' timestamp='1361475088' post='2140574']
This is not based on who I want to draft but the more I learn about Gettlemen the more I feel this will be his pick. My guess is we will keep Gross and try to shave some from his salary unless E Fisher falls which I doubt he will.

He seems to like the athletic dlinemen and Richardson fits that mold.Another reason is this years wr class is not elite but deep, and feel we can grab an upgrade in the 2nd round.

Not that I am good at this but I did pick Luke as our number 1 pick last year based on the severity of the injury to Beason
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I would be thrilled with a Richardson/Hunter or Richardson/Reid combo as long as we've added RG run stuffing Dt and some secondary help in FA.

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[quote name='koolkatluke' timestamp='1361476564' post='2140593']
I would be thrilled with a Richardson/Hunter or Richardson/Reid combo as long as we've added RG run stuffing Dt and some secondary help in FA.
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That is kind of what I am thinking.We may pick up a guard and FS with a FA.There are really 2 elite guards this year but I do not see us using our number 1 on either.

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[img]http://www.giants.com/assets/images/imported/NYG/photos/linval-joseph/10-1030-joseph-article.jpg[/img]

Even while Gettleman was there the Giants understood the need for a big nose tackle.
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I was convinced we we're taking Quinton Coples with the first round pick last year because we visited him twice. Weird things happen in the draft and it's way too early to be convinced in my opinion.

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Sheldon ain't so good against the run, maybe he can improve but I feel the need for a run plugging NT is much bigger than a gap shooter.
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We have enough linebackers...........:-)

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[quote name='BigBeast52' timestamp='1361490441' post='2140817']
Sheldon ain't so good against the run, maybe he can improve but I feel the need for a run plugging NT is much bigger than a gap shooter.
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The problem is it takes a DT some time to physically develop in a time where we expect so much out of 1st round picks to play now coupled is most of these guys are out early.Though I believe we will draft one I am not so sure it will give us an immediate game changer or big bang for our buck this year.

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Any DT!!!!!

Richardson, Floyd, Hankins, Jesse, Jenkins

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If we don't resign Dwan or sign Canty, DT WILL BE THE PICK AT 14

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Even if we do resign Dwan our 1st pick should be a DT, or at least our 2nd. I'd be happy enough with Sheldon, J. Williams or even Jenkins. I'd be ecstatic with Hankins or Star. I'd be very displeased if we took Floyd.

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We could take the best UT 1 or 2 and then take TJ Barnes later on. That would be pass rush and run stuff.

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[url="http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/nfl-is-next-stop-for-sheldon-richardson/article_ad1452ce-37e6-50d5-9d10-8f2bc4de0faf.html"]Here is a little write-up[/url] on Richardson including some combine numbers

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I think it's an odd draft year. He may not be the best player available but I honk he will be high enough on the board so when they look at player ranking and positional need he may come out on top. I know there are questions about DT impact the first year but I think he can make an impact and can be a 3 down player on day one.

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I like Sheldon Richardson a heck of a lot more than Fletcher Cox. I would not object to him Vaccaro or one of the top LTs, Warmack. Even an athetic freak like Patterson would be cool..its the most whatever draft to me bc they all grade about equally.

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[quote name='JawnyBlaze' timestamp='1361507760' post='2141060']
Even if we do resign Dwan our 1st pick should be a DT, or at least our 2nd. I'd be happy enough with Sheldon, J. Williams or even Jenkins. I'd be ecstatic with Hankins or Star. I'd be very displeased if we took Floyd.
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Why the hate for Floyd, Jawny?

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Richardson is more of a quick penetrating defensive tackle, kind of light...would be great in a Tampa-2. He is not near strong enough in the run for that high of a pick, I would want a complete player as a top 15 pick.

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Why the hate for Floyd, Jawny?
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I've watched every video of him from YouTube and in every one he's getting tossed around like a rag doll. He gets decent penetration occasionally, but not as often as a single OL drives him back completely out of a play. Maybe others have access to "game tape" that I don't, all I have to go off of is YouTube, but I was totally underwhelmed by everything I saw out of him.

Everything he can do Richardson does better, Richardson has a much higher motor, and Richardson doesn't get neutralized nearly as often based on what I've watched. And I don't even really want Richardson, but I wouldn't be unhappy if he were our pick.

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Funny, because going off the YouTube footage they have of Floyd and richardson, positive and negative plays, I see richardson on the ground and getting rag dolled alot more than Floyd. I just think Floyd does everything better than richardson

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[quote name='BigBeast52' timestamp='1361940152' post='2146037']
Funny, because going off the YouTube footage they have of Floyd and richardson, positive and negative plays, I see richardson on the ground and getting rag dolled alot more than Floyd. I just think Floyd does everything better than richardson
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This....I'm not sure what people see in Rich, he can't defend the run and is much less disruptive than say Kawann Short...if you want and undersized DT, 3 tech type.

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[quote name='Swaggasaurus' timestamp='1361944099' post='2146090']
This....I'm not sure what people see in Rich, he can't defend the run and is much less disruptive than say Kawann Short...if you want and undersized DT, 3 tech type.
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I think the love for Richardson comes in his ability to pass rush in a passing league.Though I think we may draft him it is hard for me to get excited about it

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Sheldon Richardson got rag-dolled against Alabama. Every game I have seen him in, the effort is there, but he gets pushed around. He is quick, but he can't get up field against the run. That's a huge problem. Those of you that are pulling for this guy, I would like to know why. He is Kris Jenkins - the strength and intelligence + a bigger ego.

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He won't be available when we pick....

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