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[url="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57570920/daytona-crash-sends-car-parts-flying-injuring-fans/"]http://www.cbsnews.c...-injuring-fans/[/url]

Gonna be a lot of rich rednecks.

They thought this might happen with these new cars.

It did.

Oops.

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If they were smart, they included something in the ticket buying process that said "watch at your own risk" or some such warning just in case something like this occurred.

Whether or not they're smart...unknown.

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Every sporting event ticket has a disclaimer on it. Including NASCAR tickets.

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i saw it in first person....scary poo man....here goes the footage.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AC-IFpUuPN4

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[quote name='BigSyke' timestamp='1361675969' post='2142701']
i saw it in first person....scary poo man....here goes the footage.


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AC-IFpUuPN4[/media]
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Scary stuff man! I didn't hear about the debris flying into the crowd until I got home tonight. Heard over 15 people were being carried away on stretchers.

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I would of been that guy taking the tire out of the stand and then putting it on Ebay...
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This has happened before, last time it was Edwards at dega, another super speedway where they require restrictor plates.
There's just no way to guarantee that ANY car will not get airborne under those circumstances. They changed the aero package again because people were bitching about the two car tandem drafting, so now we get the pack racing and the 'big one' again. It's not the new cars, it's happened with just about every generation of stock cars they've ran, from Petty to Allison, Edwards, and now this.

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Yeah, don't blame the type of car. Simple aerodynamics. Vehicles flying at 200 MPH will catch some air if the are hit in the right spot at the right time in the right conditions. Unfortunate, but the risk you take. Scary part for me was seeing where the wreck started. I sat 4 rows up in the same spot (just before the dog-leg) at Dega a few years ago. Same thing could have happened there. This sucks, but it happens every once in a while. You gotta know when you buy the tickets that you're taking rubber from the tires to the face all damn race...and if a wreck occurs...you could catch bigger debris.

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I saw this happen before on final destination

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Seems like the same folks who get a 300 pound wrassler thrown on them at WWF.

Wouldn't your brain tell you don't sit so close to rockets with wheels going in a circle endlessly?

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[quote name='Mr. Scot' timestamp='1361673082' post='2142659']
If they were smart, they included something in the ticket buying process that said "watch at your own risk" or some such warning just in case something like this occurred.

Whether or not they're smart...unknown.
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[quote name='cookinbrak' timestamp='1361675322' post='2142695']
Every sporting event ticket has a disclaimer on it. Including NASCAR tickets.
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They do, but often the language is unenforceable for various reasons. It's not really a contract if both sides don't give up something. And gross negligence can't be undone by a disclaimer.

Lowe's paid out 10's of millions in settlements after the bridge collapse (I think). I'm sure Daytona will happily settle behind the scenes.

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Here is a picture of what hit that person....ouch!

[img]http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/NBCSports/Components/Slideshows-NBC_sports/Motor%20sports/130223_Daytona%20Crash/130223_Crash3.ss_full.jpg[/img]

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You mean those 6-pack beer coolers?
Or those chicken bones?

Oh..... I see what you're looking at now.... the bloodstain between the tire and that one cooler....

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I read some of the history of fan injuries in racing today. Some years ago at Le Mans, 83 spectators were killed when one of the cars went into the crowd. I don't think anything like that could happen at a NASCAR race, generally the circle tracks are much safer than road courses. But although safety is a lot better today than it was then, but they still have to make some improvements.

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[quote name='Zod' timestamp='1361711148' post='2142849']
Seems like the same folks who get a 300 pound wrassler thrown on them at WWF.
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No. For so many reasons, no.

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when you enter a race - your ticket is your waiver. this isn't the first time something like this has happened.

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[quote name='MrTouchdown' timestamp='1361727286' post='2143113']
when you enter a race - your ticket is your waiver. this isn't the first time something like this has happened.
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Not for every offense

http://www.mcguirewoods.com/news-resources/publications/SEL_June_2008.pdf



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North Carolina courts have not specifically ruled on whether a release or waiver may
bar a claim for gross negligence or willful or wanton conduct.

However, courts in other jurisdictions have generally held that prior releases of claims for gross negligence or willful or wanton conduct are void because they violate public policy.[/quote]

If the courts decide that Daytona was negligent in not providing enough protection then the waiver isn't going to help (unless FL law is wacky)

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nice of the guy with the camera to just keep shooting video...good priorities right there...but that's the world we live in

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NHRA is alive and well after whole entire cars have landed in the stands killing people. Same with indycar series. Daytona might have to get their check book out, that's about it.

I'm pretty sure people sitting at the track know that this is a possibility.

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I wouldn't even go to a race at a larger track if I had to sit that close.

1) It's 10x more dangerous sitting that close
2) All you'd be able to see is a streak go by every few seconds
3) chances are your eardrums would bust


I sat in row 3 at Martinsville once and I had buzzing in my ears for 3 days after.

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Hmmm....wonder if I should sit so close to cars racing at speeds up to 200+ mph. Sounds safe.

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[quote name='CCS' timestamp='1361758823' post='2143692']
I wouldn't even go to a race at a larger track if I had to sit that close.

1) It's 10x more dangerous sitting that close
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I'm guessing it's like 10,000x more dangerous since injuries/death will only happen in the first few rows

[quote name='Dpantherman' timestamp='1361805934' post='2144036']
Hmmm....wonder if I should sit so close to cars racing at speeds up to 200+ mph. Sounds safe.
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It probably is in general terms. The odds of dying at a NASCAR type racing event is probably around the same as dying from a lightning strike.

But yeah i don't sit in the front rows because it sucks from a viewing perspective.

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I'm sure some disclaimer on a ticket stub will stop lawyers from persuing this. :thumbsu:

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If you have to see through the fences at a race, you're way too low.

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[quote name='Scrumtrilescent' timestamp='1361813803' post='2144185']
If you have to see through the fences at a race, you're way too low.
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Particularly at te super speedways. Not only for safety but for actually seeing the race. If you are too low at Daytona or Talladega it's like

ZOOM
*58 seconds of silence*
ZOOM
*58 seconds of silence*
ZOOM
*58 seconds of silence*
ZOOM
*silence and skim rubber off top of your beer*

It's like having a TV timeout after every play during a football game.

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