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I think our secondary could be historically bad

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That is all. Hope the guys prove me wrong
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It wasnt bad at the end of the season. It was only terrible when Naka was starting.

With our front 7 you could put my sister out there and we would be fine
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On PAPER it doesn't look great but that's why we play the game. I'm a huge fan of Thomas and Campbell. I'm optimistic. No reason to get down and read into the future without seeing what we really have. In the games that Thomas/Campbell played and started, we played great. Who knows. Let the kids play.

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That's awesome news! Five of the six worst secondaries of all time went to the playoffs, and one went to the Super Bowl! The two worst ever were the 2011 Packers and Patriots!

Seriously, people, get a grip.
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It isnt like they played bad last year or didnt play at all.

They played and played average - good.

No need to be worried until given a reason to.

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I don't think any aspect of our defense will ever be historically bad with Ron Rivera as coach.
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The man knows defense. Thats for sure.

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It won't be as bad as the Saints' was last year if for no other reason than because we have such a dominant front 7 and their front 7 was about as bad as their back 4.

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Rivera made a Chargers team with far less talent on the defensive side of the ball amongst the league's best. Gettleman is a straight shooter and believes the answers to our secondary woes are already on the roster. The way he has talked up Norman makes me cautiously optimistic about him. Godfrey might show significant improvement at his new position. Florence and DJ Moore force turnovers and I believe that is going to be an emphasis for this unit once again.

They were serviceable with a poor DT core last season. Now we have two monsters in the middle with two double-digit sack artists on the outside and The Kraken is in a contract year. The linebackers have the potential to be among the leads best if healthy and I am confident they will be even if Beason isn't quite at the level we are used to prior to his injury. Luke will lead this entire unit and I am confident this front seven can lead us to the promise land while a physical secondary should be good in run support and force plenty of turnovers thanks to the constant pressure up front.
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Not saying we have the same pieces.. but Seattle took Sherman in the fifth round, Chansellor in the fifth round, Browner was UDFA and played in CFL and they have the best secondary in the NFL. I've got a weird gut feeling that Norman is going to be REALLY good and Thomas is going to be more than solid. Call it delusional.. but I like what we have.

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Teams wont have 5 seconds to throw the ball next year. With our current CB crop they will get the job done. But with that said we are not done with improving the roster yet. Alot of veteran FA still out there.

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We basically have last year's secondary + D.J. Moore and Drayton Florence at CB and Mike Mitchell (and potentially Robert Lester) at S. We finished in the top-10 in total defense with that group. No reason to think we can't improve on that with the upgrades to the DL.
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How are we going to be historically bad? We were middle of the pack last year and we improved our defense across the board. The only players we may miss are James Anderson and Jason Phillips. Gamble didn't really play last year so you can't act like he is a big loss. We brought in a veteran in Drayton Florence. A decent young guy in DJ Moore. We retained all of the guys that played for us with the exception of Sherrod Martin. We might be the same but we won't be the worst ever.

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I thought DJ Cambell played well in the last 5 games. I wouldn't count him out.
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Eagles had an Allstar secondary at one point! We saw how that worked out

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CB: James Dockery, Josh Thomas
SS: DJ Campbell
FS: Colin Jones

That was literally our lineup for the majority of the second Falcons game. We had them shutout for 40 minutes or something before going all prevent.

No need to worry that much about the secondary as long as Greg Hardy, Charles Johnson, Star Lotulelei, Dwan Edwards, Kawann Short, and Frank Alexander are on the field. Like Gettleman said.... hard for the opposing QB to throw the ball well if he's always getting knocked on his ass.

Edit: And IIRC, Hardy didn't play in the 2nd game. We still kept Brees and co in check until late in the game when we allowed 17 points in 4 minutes or something stupid because of prevent again.

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[quote name='rodeo' timestamp='1367134187' post='2215305']
I don't think any aspect of our defense will ever be historically bad with Ron Rivera as coach.
[/quote]This...Rivera is going to have a front seven that will support the secondary we have available. I'm also pretty confident that the personnel we have will be better overall than what we sawlast year at times....historically bad? That's crazy talk.

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I don't think the secondary is that big of a concern. Laugh now, I said the same last year about the DL and people laughed and chided.

They'll be a solid group.
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[quote name='KendrickPanther' timestamp='1367139155' post='2215324']
I thought DJ Cambell played well in the last 5 games. I wouldn't count him out.
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[quote name='Dash Global' timestamp='1367133239' post='2215296']
It wasnt bad at the end of the season. It was only terrible when Naka was starting.

With our front 7 you could put my sister out there and we would be fine
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Our secondary got absused last year and we got pressure.

Rookie DTs will be just that at first...and we already generated more pressure per snap I believe than any team last year.

Our secondary is a big issue. Pass rush helps a secondary. We had a pass rush last year....secondary was so bad that didn't matter. Slightly better DT play in 2013 in pass scenarios doesn't suddenly make a liability of a secondary not one

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Was ranked in the top half of the league without Gamble. We added some more talented depth...a great DL can make a bad secondary look good.

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The true whiners and pessimists always come out at this time of the year.

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[quote name='CRA' timestamp='1367149182' post='2215355']
Our secondary got absused last year and we got pressure.

Rookie DTs will be just that at first...and we already generated more pressure per snap I believe than any team last year.

Our secondary is a big issue. Pass rush helps a secondary. We had a pass rush last year....secondary was so bad that didn't matter. Slightly better DT play in 2013 in pass scenarios doesn't suddenly make a liability of a secondary not one
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Our secondary fnished 12th in the league last year, and would have been higher if Naka didnt start all those games.

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[quote name='Dash Global' timestamp='1367149682' post='2215361']


Our secondary fnished 12th in the league last year, and would have been higher if Naka didnt start all those games.
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This.

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