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wharton, star, and newton...3 performances of note (pff)

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pff article...

 

 

 

Wharton’s Return

Shuffling the O-line is not an idea unfamiliar to NFL teams as the ‘next man up’ mantra has become commonplace and depth and versatility are now drawing even in importance with a solid starting five. The Panthers are in the midst of one of these situations now with guards Garry Williams and Amini Silatolu both on the shelf with knee injuries. Chris Scott has moved to fill in on the right after briefly doing the same on the left and Travelle Wharton has come full circle to once again find himself starting on the Panther O-line.

A year away (on I.R. with Cincinnati in 2012) must have done him good as Wharton, in his first start of 2013, posted the best grade for a Carolina O-lineman this season. The early portion of his career predates us, but the +3.7 is the top mark we’ve seen for him since one game in 2009 and, given it was built partly on five notable pull blocks, it’s safe to assume he’s feeling good and in fine playing shape now.

 

Falling Star

After a hot start to his rookie campaign, Panther first-round defensive tackle Star Lotulelei (-2.3) had fallen into a bit of a flat run before suffering his first significantly down game this week. Matching -1.2’s in his run defense and pass rushing grades each marked season lows and his first grades in the red so far.

Kept off the pressure sheet as a pass rusher for the first time, Lotulelei was also moved around a bit by the Vikings’ interior as both guard Brandon Fusco and center John Sullivan got the better of him at points. In the end, it wasn’t a day he was needed to make an impact – and the entire Carolina D-line was held quiet, so he wasn’t alone in it – but the trend is worth keeping an eye on as his season moves forward.

 

Cam Cruising

In as nondescript a three-touchdown day as you’ll see, Cam Newton (+0.8) quietly completed 20 passes and never had to push for a victory that came without much fight. He rarely found himself under pressure (eight drop-backs out of 29) and took what was there through the air the rest of the day – including the sole strike of distance, a well-placed ball on Brandon LaFell’s uncovered 79-yard touchdown up the right sideline.

Hitting an open Steve Smith for a short TD in the first quarter and watching Mike Tolbert rumble in with a shovel pass late in the third, Newton also got away with a dropped interception into Jamarca Sanford’s belly and his bullets found Brian Robison’s arms too long at the line of scrimmage three times. The standard dose of plays with his legs rounded out the effective, if unremarkable, afternoon.

 

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Wharton looked slow earlier in the season, but now he seems to be up to speed, well by Wharton standards.

 

I hope Star isn't hitting the rookie wall already... nah too soon.

 

Could we please have the Vikings Cam for the rest of the season. We'd probably win the SB.

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Wharton looked slow earlier in the season, but now he seems to be up to speed, well by Wharton standards.

 

I hope Star isn't hitting the rookie wall already... nah too soon.

 

Could we please have the Vikings Cam for the rest of the season. We'd probably win the SB.

Really impressed with Wharton as well, and as for Star don't read to much into it he has been playing 3 tech next to cole who has been playing in stars spot.  Also remember DTs usually take a year or two to finally make a consistent impact give star this year he will likely be up and down, but put another offseason of lifting and conditioning under his belt and he's going to be a beast

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Dwan's ass has to get healthy to help these middle linemen have a descent rotation.  Cole, Alexander on occasion, Kraken on occasion, KK, Star.  It has to be a team effort and Dwan is sitting on his one year deal and it is pissing me off.  Unless his hammy is torn in two, get your ass out there Edwards.

 

Has anyone named Edwards on this team, not let us down?

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Need to send Star packing.

No wonder we brought Fua back.
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Need to send Star packing.

No wonder we brought Fua back.

durn tootin!

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Vikings actually have a solid oline, big part of the reason AP is so threatening.  We really didn't get a lot of pressure on the QB and if we didn't have TD and Luke would have probably been mauled by AP.

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Throwing my football knowledge out there, but without looking at the stats, I"m guessing Star fell off since the Vikings were probably using the most run heavy formations we've seen all season.  With Cassell back there, they weren't going to come out in spread or passing attacks like Seattle, Buffalo and the Cardinals ran alot of, so Star was probably being double teamed quite a bit, and getting gassed out since Dwan wasn't there to spell him.

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Vikings actually have a solid oline, big part of the reason AP is so threatening. We really didn't get a lot of pressure on the QB and if we didn't have TD and Luke would have probably been mauled by AP.


Duh, Steve Hutchinson.

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Duh, Steve Hutchinson.

 

He still plays?

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I really don't know how this OL keeps holding up...

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Duh, Steve Hutchinson.


He's retired

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We all knew Wharton was going to wind up at LG. Poor Amini never had a chance.

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kill sione fua

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Look out PFF, the Cam enforcers won't stand for such a low rating.

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Look out PFF, the Cam enforcers won't stand for such a low rating.


Is this really necessary?

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kill sione fua


Make him suffer first.

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We all knew Wharton was going to wind up at LG. Poor Amini never had a chance.


Amini was playing well, I had no problem with him getting the nod.

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Is this really necessary?

 

calling out the "cam huggers" is a full time job even if nobody said anything about him

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I think that the opportunity to pad stats with pressure on the DL was hindered by us blitzing. You cant expect to push through to 300 lb men and get to a QB faster than a LB or DB coming untouched off the edge. While im sure Star did not have his best day, i think its tuff to evaluate a DL, when they dont have time to get to the QB to rush him cause a free blitzer did.

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I think that the opportunity to pad stats with pressure on the DL was hindered by us blitzing. You cant expect to push through to 300 lb men and get to a QB faster than a LB or DB coming untouched off the edge. While im sure Star did not have his best day, i think its tuff to evaluate a DL, when they dont have time to get to the QB to rush him cause a free blitzer did.


That may be backwards. They blitzed because the 4 werent getting to tye QB. It happens sonetimes.

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That may be backwards. They blitzed because the 4 werent getting to tye QB. It happens sonetimes.

 

 

While i do understand the need to bring extra players because the DL is not generating pressure. It did not seem that that was the case against the Vikes. It seemed they came in with a plan to bring extra defenders to confuse Cassel. They came out of the gate that way, it did not seem like an adjustment. Maybe im seeing this wrong but thats how it seemed. I beleive the coaching staff saw what the blitzing did to Cam against the Cards and said hmm this might hep us beet the Vikes. Also i am not to sure they will do that against the Rams, as Bradford is good at deciding were to put the ball when being blitzed. i expect the DL to look better this week as they will not have their thunder stolen from the DB/LB. however that means the DBs need to cover a split second longer but they will have more of them out to help.

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IF, our front four cannot produce consistent pressure, we are very willing and able to throw some blitzes at you. We may never be blitz happy because, well..., we really don't need to. But when we have to, or just as a pleasant surprise. Sure, here we come.

Although we may seem to be blitzing more than in the past, I would not call us a blitz happy team. We are physical and athletic. We play smart and can throw a poo ton of looks at you. We are aggressive, and everyone knows their role. But, we are not afraid to throw a blitz or two at ya. If they work, we win. If they don't work, we'll see ya soon.

Add that all up and what do you get? The Vikes and the Rams. Two team with aspirations, who got spanked, and couldn't handle it. You are going to see a lot of teams upset with us. Our Defense is nasty, and our Offense has to practice against it every day. Believe it or not. We are a very physical team. Teams can handle that when they beat you. When they lose? Not so much.

I love how aggressive we have become. On both Offense and Defense. Keep it up guys.

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Amini was playing well, I had no problem with him getting the nod.


I was one of his biggest doubters after a really shaky preseason, but amini was playing good before he got hurt

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