People always bring up the black market in these types of scenarios. But he cold hard fact, and research bears this out, that fewer guns in the nation translates to fewer shootings. And if the nebulous "criminals" are already buying ghosts on the black market, then there's nothing we can do to stop that. But if there are fewer handguns in pawn shops, gun shows, gun stores, then it's still harder for criminals to get their hands on them.
I think y'all are being too hard on Jangler. This is a bit of a trap conversation because unless you are part of the "Corageous and Beautiful" camp that South Park parodied, it's easy to be labeled some kind of a bigot. And while perhaps he's being a tad insensitive, I don't think Jangler raises a bad point. You can't condemn a person for surgically altering their body because they feel it should be different in one case but not another. Both are reflective of a psychological disorder. And I think that's part of the reason for the anger in this thread; the negative connotation associated with the term "psychological disorder." It sounds like a harsh judgement, but it's just a fact. And more than a quarter of Americans (26.1%) have a diagnosable mental disorder, whether or not they are being treated for it or have even been diagnosed with it. And Cat raised the point that there is no harm in living as another gender. That's true, but harm to self of others is not the basis for a mental disorder. You could also say that there's no harm in being OCD. Is there? You wash your hands a lot and organize your M&Ms by color? That's not harming yourself or others. But if you knew someone with OCD you'd probably suggest they get treated for it. When someone has a compulsion to change their physiology, the easy fix is just to do the surgery. Whether it's willfully disabling yourself, changing your gender, or trying to get a nose that's shaped more like the lady folk in the magazines and the movie pictures. Sometimes the more difficult, but ultimately more beneficial treatment is resolving the underlying psychological conditions that lead people to believe they are in spectacularly the wrong shape. If, through treatment, it's determined that there is really no other way to get the person's internal idea of "self" to be reflected in their outward form than by changing themselves surgically, then by all means do it. But you can't condemn this woman's actions and saying it's plainly different from sex reassignment.
"Racist Deflection"...BINGO! Check out my "Gun Nut Bingo" sheet! "Mental Health" is a free space. Got "Chicago," "Good guy with a gun" and "Nothing will stop criminals from getting guns" on the diagonal! Check it!
Well, since we've established there's literally nothing we can do to prevent gun violence (because the other first world countries who have significantly fewer shootings won't give up their secret formula to anti-gun-violence juice) clearly the only solution is to treat these kind of events as part of the entertainment industry. I mean, if we won't make any effort to fix the problem, (short of banning bricks, rope and knives) it's foolish and insincere to regard these incidents as tragedies. It's just click bait.
And as far as entertainment value, meh. C+ I mean, it's a rural logging community; not a major market. I mean, heck it's not even a state school. Body count is average, and consisting of adults. No school aged children, which is really going to hurt the staying power of this story. Once we find out the race and religion of the shooter and the victims, we might be able to bump this up to a B- if it turns out it's racially motivated or was perpetrated by a Muslim. A- if the shooter has ties to ISIS. But, come on! A college shooting? That's so Two thousand and LATE! Didn't this loser know that the murder selfie is the gun violence blockbuster now? I mean, where's the Go Pro footage? Where's his Twitter handle and Instagram manifesto? He did a really poor job marketing this one. Overall analysis? Mediocre at best. Will be forgotten in a couple weeks or so. Just chalked up as yet another, "Well there's nothing we could have done, and no way we could have stopped it. Mental Health, blah blah blah. See you at the next slaughter!"
And if you think this is offensive, and disrespectful to the victims and their families; Good. You have at least some soul left. No stop pretending there is any solution aside from outlawing guns that will stop tragedies like this happening. If you in any way do not support the wholesale removal of guns form our society, then don't dare act like you care about these victims.
Because it's fugging disingenuous to act shocked and saddened by this, then do NOTHING, and then act shocked and saddened again and again. You want their legacy to not be tarnished? Then how about you actually do something to prevent senseless murder and exploitation from happening again? Just whining that people are making this a gun issue while the blood is still wet is only enabling gun violence. It's saying, "Oh, let's just chill out with the politics until people's emotions are worn off, then we can placate the masses with statistics about automobile crash statistics, alcohol and rope." You think you're somehow morally superior? No, it's exactly this attitude of , "well let's talk about it later," that ensures that nothing ever changes.
You know, it's really quite clever on the part of the NRA to say, "don't politicize the gun issue in the wake of this tragedy." I mean, they happen so frequently, there's really no right time to address the gun issue.
This is a whole new degree of fugged up. I never would have believed that we got to the point where someone would film themselves committing a murder and sharing it online. But here we are. The day has come. We legitimately have reached the low point. It's just the perfect storm: Guns everywhere with no accountabilityMental illness everywhere and no infrastructure to handle itA generation who believes in immediate gratification. Give me it now! I deserve it.A culture of victimization, self-pity, and entitlement that leads people to immediately quit and blame others the moment they experience any adversity.The era of the selfie. It's all about me, me, me. Look at me! "Reaction videos" so people can see what you looked like while you watched the new Force Awakens trailer. Then the Ice Bucket challenge, "I'll do something that feeds my ego while pretending I'm doing it because I care about ALS." Well , that's brought us here. This present day American society is incredibly fugged. And I'm truly starting to think it's beyond help. I don't get like this from these stories often, because as I said, they happen so often, and to date, I've lived through the mass murder of elementary school children, universities, movie theaters, and at this point I thought I'd be numbed. But I'm literally shaking with anger and frustration and grief. But mainly disappointment. It's all futile anyway. You know, people worry so much about this horrible nightmare scenario of an oppressive Orwellian government. But this situation is much worse. Knowing that I can just be out on the street, or in the theater, or in the store, or anywhere really, and some nut can just blow my brains out before I can even think it react. And unless I lock myself in my house, it's a very real possibility that I'll get gunned down by someone who was mad at me from a previous job, or angry about traffic, or for no real reason at all. Yet in some inconceivable act of cognitive dissonance, I just have to shrug my shoulders and say, "Oh well. There's no way you could have prevented that shooting, or this shooting. I mean, guns really aren't the issue." You want to talk about the thought police? I'm trapped in a real life time and place that's a hundred times scarier than 1984.
Oh, I do the streaming service through the PS3. I can't get DirecTV in my apartment building because that zone doesn't permit dishes. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to shell out the money just so I have the chance to get Sunday Ticket in the comfort off my home without having to subscribe to cable or satellite.