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  1. 2016 3 biggest roster holes.

    First I am going to start with some fairly safe assumptions. 1. Norman is back via at least franchise tag (I prefer a 3-5 year extension personally) 2. Charles Johnson is cut. I have mentioned the rationale behind this in a couple of other threads. Long story short he is worth much more on open market than he is to us. His cap figure has to go away and no point in using one Hurney's bad traits moving forward (Converting base salary into guaranteed lump sum that can be stretched out up to 5 years). 3. Allen will not be back, nor will Tillman.  4. This one is a fact not an assumption. Harper and Cotchery are gone. There contracts had the voidable years in 16 (much like Gross did in his final year). Already have to pay a little bit of dead money for this, so no reason to sign them to an active contract on top of the dead money. Now for the holes to be filled on the roster. 1.  Defensive end's : Yes that is plural.One could easily go to Ealy. He had an incredible performance in the Super Bowl but he lacks consistency so far. However due to our draft position, lack of value free agents at the position this is going to be a tough hole(s) to fill. Having Star and Short causing terror up the middle and the good play of the 7 behind them we should have seen better results from every DE on our roster in my opinion.  So is this one of those the answer is already on the roster type deals? Maybe. Number 1 candidate is Ealy. However I think he will have to earn one of the starting spots (and probably will) but who starts opposite of him is a big question mark. Also you can never have to many pass rushers, so who is going to be the depth behind them? I think Addison remains on board for camp, as well as Delaire but after that we are really lacking depth here. 2. Cornerback's : I know some of you are already penciling in Bene for the job # 2 CB spot, however personally I am not convinced he automatically gets the nod. If he does then does that mean we bring Mcclain back for the nickel spot? We saw such limited action of Mcclain that I believe its too early to guarantee he's even brought back next year and if even if he is I want to see some competition in camp.  3. Strong Safety : Harper is gone and his primary backup was Dean Marlowe. . Honorable mention would also be RB. I tend to think Stewart has one more year with us and Tolbert is likely gone. Even if Tolbert comes back it does not make sense to count on him as a key cog in the run game anymore. Plus we all know how injury prone Stewart is. CAP showed some "flashes" as Rivera would say but they opted to deactivate him for the Super Bowl, so not sure what time timetable is on him being ready to take on a bigger role.  Agree? Disagree? How should we go about filling these holes or whatever perceived holes you have in your mind?       
  2. What might a Charles Johnson extension look like?

    I think the time for a restructure/extension would have been last year before his 2015 20 million dollar cap hit. We already took that on the chin. I personally think Gettleman is going to cut him and take the 11 million.  He's just no longer worth a cap hit north of 6 million a year. Next years biggest cap hits.  Cam 19.5 Million Kalil 10.3 Million Johnson (under your proposed restructure) 10 Million Stewart (if he stays and nothing changes) 9.55 Million Davis 7.5 Million Luke 6 Million Olsen 5.1 Million That being said I think its a safe assumption that his days as a Panther are over.        
  3. Haha. Must be a huge relief to know you only missed out on 1% of 1.2 million vs the whole thing.
  4. Who Should Go or not resign

    It appears Cotchery and Harper are both already gone. Their contracts included "voidable years". So they are off the books and with the automatic dead money hitting, it makes 0 sense to re-sign them to new contracts on top of the dead money.
  5. Edit: Cotchery too! According to Spotrac and overthecap it looks like 2016 had a "voided year" clause and we have already ate the dead money by virtue of this. So thats 900k dead money if we eat all this year or 450k if spread over the next 2 years. Looks like Cotchery had a similar clause will be gone too.  His dead money is 1.3 Million. Not sure what his old cap figure was scheduled to be.          
  6. Who Should Go or not resign

     No brainer moves. 1. Cut Allen, frees up 8.5 Allen in cap space and does not add any dead money to cap. 2. Sign Norman to long term deal. 3-4 for years would be Ideal. 3. Cut Roman Harper, his current scheduled cap of 4.6 million is way too high. Will cause dead money of 450k in 16 and again in 17 but provides immediate cap relief of 4.150 Million. EDIT according to spotrac update it looks like this has already happened by virtue of his contract having voided years starting in 16. 4. Let Tolbert walk unless he wants to stay for vet minimum.  Tougher decisions.  1.Cut or extend Johnson? His regular season was very underwhelming. However he came on strong in playoff run. Getting 1 sack in each playoff game and forced a fumble in our last 2. He's obviously not worth the scheduled cap hit of 15 Million. Cutting him out right leaves 4 million in dead money and provides in 11 million in immediate cap space.  If we had some promising young talent on board at Defensive end cutting him would be a no brainer. So that leaves what kind of money is he worth on an extension? Probably would merit more money on the open market so if that's what he wants then we have to cut him.  2.  Jonathan Stewart. This is a tough one. Scheduled cap hit is 9.5 Million. If we cut him cap dead money is 7.2 million. Would have to spread cap hit over 2 years at 3.65 million a year for next 2 years. Net savings for 16 would only be 5.9 plus you have another 3.65 million in dead money in 16. I think the dead money hit forces us to keep him 1 more year at his current figure.                     
  8. Unity, Individualism, Mavericks; Champions!?????.....

    Finding guys not dabbing is kind of like where's Waldo.  Star, Turner and Chris Scott opted out for some reason.
  9. When did you 'know' this team was Superbowl bound

    When I decided to buy tickets to the Game in Atlanta. Don't worry I didn't buy any super bowl tickets.
  10. Best "Hitler reacts" videos

    Just saw the one about the panthers reaching the Super Bowl. First one I saw was on the huddle a few years ago but can't remember what it was about other than it was fuging Hillarious. So please post your favorites on here and hopefully it'll show up.  Thanks 
  11. Marty Hurney

    Hurney     Gettleman    
  12. Marty Hurney

    I'll just throw this out there too. Our 2013 Season where we went 12-4 was mostly made by Hurney as well. All 7 pro bowlers that year came from Hurney.  Things that changed from 12 to 13. Riverboat Ron was born. Star and Short were added. Mike Mitchell and Ted Ginn were key free agent signings that worked out well. Others did not (Antoine Cason, Drayton Florence, etc. not g-man's fault as  he was on a tight budget) I am a proud of what Gettleman has accomplished since coming on board. He was smart enough to retain all of the coaching staff, front office and young core of the team that Hurney had in place. He also did the necessary but brutal house cleaning in 2014 where we lost aging vets in Gross, Wharton, and Steve Smith and he allowed his very own 1 year rentals he hit on flee for more money (Mitchell and Ginn). Leaving us with Bell and Chandler as our stating tackles, the secondary was a hot mess and outside of Benjamin and Olsen Cam had nobody to throw to, much less the time to find anyone.  The short term result was predictably disastrous as we tumbled back to 7-8-1. However it had to be done at some point for the long term health of the franchise moving forward. Hurney would have kept the band together as long as he could simply because he had no contract and was in a win now mode without regard to the future of the team.                     
  13. Marty Hurney

    What's wrong with giving him some credit for the good he did?  Cam, Kuechly,Davis, Kalil,Olsen,Stewart,Norman, Tolbert, CJ,Dwan Edwards, Gano, Jansen, Colin Jones, Derek Anderson, Rivera and the front office are all products of Hurney currently on this team that come to my mind without further research. He was the GM on our first Super Bowl run and provided us talented rosters over the years he was here. Yes he went crazy with the checkbook after the lockout. To his credit J.R. did tank the 2010 season and allowed many of our top players to hit free agency in the same year. The first year of the new CBA where every free agent got paid league wide. Yes he had trigger finger on draft day that did more harm than good. Mostly this was out of desperation as I believe he worked without a contract for a time there and was in emergency job save mode without regard for the long term. He's gone now and nobody is missing him. However it's silly to be annoyed that he's being given credit for the things he got right. He has taken plenty of flak for everything he got wrong.             
  14. Random pics from the Game

    There was some left over food in there. Looked gourmet but I was already full on Bo'jangles
  15. Random pics from the Game

    Just another ✔️ On the ole bucket list