Has to be route running since everyone knows that Proehl is a genius and Shula is clueless. Let's ignore all the pick and rub plays we used to spring receivers or the reverses and gadget plays. Classic huddle speak: if it goes well it is due to the players great execution. If it goes poorly it is not due to players poor execution but poor coaching and play design.
I agree with you Ginn is actually pretty good for us. I think people see what he has done on other teams and assumes that is his potential. He had his best season as a WR for us in 2013 and is picking up where he left off. His speed makes corners play off him which opens up things underneath and across the middle. When people play tight he and Cam will burn them for 7. I think many folks really underestimate him
Brown needs to step up plain and simple. His roster spot is not guaranteed or the reporters wouldnt say he on the bubble. They obviously got that from someone on the staff. Brown didnt really do that much last year to guarantee a spot this season. THe NFL stands for not for long and that is the attitude people need to take. If he knows his job is in jeopardy and he can't handle the pressure and folds again, then he doesnt have the mental toughness to play for us, plain and simple. Everyone at this level has the talent to make a squad but it takes more than to be good enough to contribute significantly. This is his job to lose. Lets see what he does with it. I for one hope he comes out and does great tomorrow. And I would think that anyone who is a Panther's fan without an agenda would agree as well.
I will wait until we know who the receivers are on the final roster. If we will pick up a veteran or Norwood really surprises it might cut into his production. But based on the first 3 preseason games he does seem like at least our number 2 and a legitimate deep threat. Then again I told eveyone he was going to have a good year and that would have been even with Benjamin playing. He would have just been a 3 instead of a 2 or 1. After all remember that he was a first rounder. I cant help other teams don't know how to use him.
I hate to see Boykin cut but it is what it is. Hopefully Norwood plays well. On another note I was one of the first to say that Ginn will make an impact as a receiver not just in special teams. Right now he is the best receiver on the team
brown was in there to see what he could. That is the whole point of the preseason. He came in late to boost his confidence after stinking up the joint in the first half. The bigger question is why Boykin hasn't played more. Sure he is inconsistent in practice but then again so was Delhomme and countless others who are gamers not practice warriors. I think given how bad Brown has sucked after looking much better last year they are giving him every chance to show he has improved versus going through a sophomore slump.
I know you made this thread and are defending your idea that this guy would be worth a look. But let's be real here, there are a bunch of better options who haven't had multiple injuries which are potentially career ending. Plus unless you are related to him or are his agent, why the hard on for an injury prone guy who is all but washed up.? sure sure look at he potential, lol. We won't be picking him up so just let the thread die.
exactly. And exactly what has he done at this point to engender hope he could come in and play for us this year. If we wanted him down the road we can wait to see whether he has anything left and pick him up down the road. Whoever picks him up this year won't get their monies worth and have to be desperate. I can't se him being better than Boykin or other guys already on the roster. He will be lucky to even play again with any semblance of his prior speed and acceleration. It is bad enough for a player like a linemen to rehab from that kind of injury. But for a receiver who has to have speed and acceleration to do his job and certainly to be an upgrade for us, it is unlikely he will come all the way back. Certainly not enough to sign him to a contract. At this point we need a guy who can challenge for a starting position, not a project.
First of all Davis is the exception not the rule. He is the only player who has éver had 3 ACL surgeries on the same knee and returned to play at a high level. For that matter I have had the ACL surgery on my right knee so I very familiar with the procedure and rehab. Secondly Achilles injuries as a different thing all together. Beason and Godfrey both had Achilles surgery and it took years to even play and regain any of their speed or acceleration. I don't know of any player who has ever had multiple ACL surgeries and Achilles surgery and played at a high level. So no it doesn't matter what his potential was before the surgeries, after them the potential is low and he has bust written all over him. Particularly this year and next. If he were to come back it will take at least 2 years or longer to see what he can do. We can't wait that long.
I don't know what Boykin can do more than he already has. He plays special teams, catches everything and makes first downs. He isn't a burner but he excels at route running and getting open. He know where to be and where the seams and holes will be. He is a good sized physical receiver who knows how to use his body unlike Brown who lets the ball and the defender into his body playing too soft.
The play most likely wasn't poorly designed. When you design it on paper it works like you drew it up every time. The problem is always in the execution. Or the wrong play for the wrong defense. Whatever. You only see what happened not what was supposed to happen. You can be sure that they didn't draw it to happen like it did. That is my pet peeve with people complaining about the play calling all the time. Most of the time they have no clue what was called or whether it was changed at the line during the play or run correctly. Unless you know all that you only think you know what was called and infer from the play that it was called exactly as it ran. and if anyone screws up like 2 receivers in the same area it was designed that way. I bet that isn't close to the truth. Gets off soapbox........