Do you know what prevents MURDER, rape, theft, and assault? Unless you're fuging Jackie Chan, GUNS DO. Other violent crime rates are lower in the USA because of our ability to protect ourselves.
The entire idea of having no guns period is just a fantasy. Criminals don't obey the guns laws that we have in place currently. That is a fact. Your focus needs to be on keeping guns away from criminals and crazy people instead of pissing off hobbyists.
I also proved that lack of guns is directly proportional to other violent crimes. Your little quote about rape reporting is bullshit too. It's a well known fact that Sweden has a huge problem with sexual assault and rape right now. If you want to have an actual discussion stop bending facts in your favor.
My arguments don't hold water? It is a FACT that other developed countries have crime rates that are HIGHER than the USA in different categories. Gun grabbers conveniently ignore the fact that violent crime rates in gun free zones are higher than violent crime rates in the USA. Sweden seems to be you guys favorite example. Sweden has higher hate crime rates than the USA. They have higher rape rates than the USA. Sweden has overall higher crime rates than the USA. Sweden has higher burglary rates than the USA. Sweden has higher auto theft rate than the USA. Sweden has more overall assaults than the USA. Sweden RapeAssaultCar theftRobberyUnited States of America Murder Restricting guns made Sweden a total paradise huh?! Banning guns is going to do nothing but make things worse.
Taking one sentence and discounting an entire argument. Great debating skills, mate. You should have ran for president. It's the truth though, if you're so afraid of guns then move. Go to these great countries where they have higher rape, assault, and burglary rates. Guns are never going anywhere so you might might as well go instead.
You know, there's a lot of different ways to play the statistics game. I could easily post statistics about how the USA has far more Blacks/Hispanics in it than ANY other developed country then Blame the murders on the minorities. I could also post statistics that show how income disparity is a much bigger issue in the USA than in any other developed country, and chalk up violence to strain theory. I could even find statistics that show how in a country like Australia where there are anti gun laws crime like rape, burglary, auto theft, assaults, robbery, etc are much higher than the rates in the USA.
Instead I'l just address your little statistic head on. That list does not include every country in the world. If the entire list was posted people would realize it's bullshit with hell holes like Liberia and Kuwait being listed as having less murders than the USA. But according to some of you guys that must mean that Liberia is a totally safe and awesome place to go hang out. That list also doesn't list other violent crimes. Crimes that have a lower rate in the US. If you seriously think that any of those countries are safer than the USA, why don't you move there?
People aren't just going to stop being crazy because gun laws are strict. States with strict gun laws still have just as much violence. As far as other countries go, did France's strict gun laws stop the terror attacks there earlier this year? Sweden does have some nice ideas but there's no way their policies can be implemented here with the huge amount of guns already on the streets. Take the guns away you say? That'd be a great way to start Civil War #2. AGAIN, this is America, we're supposed to have the freedom to do whatever we want.
Gun grabbers always ignore the fact that if it wasn't guns people would just use something else. Bombs are easy to make and knives are more prevalent than guns. Or the fact that there's no way that guns are going to be completely eradicated. Even if people did obey some new strict gun law there's going to be bad guys who don't. Do we really want bad guys to be the only ones who are armed? I like guns for multiple reasons; recreation, hunting, protection. There's absolutely no reason to take guns from the VAST MAJORITY of people like me who do nothing wrong with their guns. If you want to start using that logic we should ban prescription meds because some people abuse those, ban welfare because some people abuse that, ban cars too because some people are irresponsible in them.
The argument against guns is flawed from top to bottom. Even the decent points like making it harder to purchase a gun is mute because if a person is crazy and they REALLY want to kill someone, they're going to do it regardless of what restrictions are in place. Again I say, if things are so unsafe in the USA then you can move, there is nothing at all stopping you from packing up and moving to your mystical gun free utopia. Don't try to restrict American freedoms though because you're uncomfortable with something.
France recently had 12 people murdered in a mass shooting. Norway recently had 77 people murdered in a shooting/bombing. England recently had a man go on a shooting spree that killed 12 people. Germany? Yeah they've had quite a few spree killers too. You think Australia is safe? They're home to the Port Arthur Massacre. Which is terrifying by the way.
The point being, this poo happens everywhere. You wanna know why you hear about it more from the USA? Because you live here. News agencies are just waiting for a tragedy to exploit and social media users are just waiting for something tragic to happen so they can change their profile picture to a RIP meme and pretend like they give a poo. You want to know why USA crime statistics are higher? Because the USA puts much more effort in to keeping track of poo like that than ANYWHERE else. Gun owners are for the most part a swell group of guys. How many actual hunters/gun enthusiasts have went out and did stuff like this? None that comes to mind right off the bat. If gun laws were restricted that's just going to give bad people an advantage. If guns were 100% outlawed with every single one being erased, crazy people would just learn to build bombs.
and the point that trumps them all is that this is supposed to be the land of the free. Not the land of do whatever you want as long as someone else doesn't like it.
If some of you fear for your lives because of guns you know you can move right? There's nothing stopping you at all. Maybe you should try Norway. That's a gun free zone and also the site of one of the largest mass murders in history.
I support stricter gun laws too, but even if it's harder to walk in to a gun store and buy a weapon there are still countless other ways to get guns without a background check. At the moment pretty much anyone can get a gun. If you're seriously mentally ill chances are you haven't been evaluated so there's not going to be anything that shows up your record. Standard mental evaluations before a gun purchase should be the law. Shootings will still happen no matter what though. You can go to any flea market on any weekend and buy an arsenal as long as you have the $$$$