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Who is the most important player on the panthers defense?

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Massive. But I don't think keek could reach his full potential without someone like star


True, but that's the nature of the DT position. Star replaced god awful players, so it's glaring the difference he made last year. Like I said, replace Star with just a decent DT and the defense doesn't drop off much. Replace Kuechly with an average MLB and the defense nosedives. Kuechly is the Peyton Manning of the defense. He is the leader. I love Star, I'd say he is second most important, but not even close to Kuechly's worth IMO.
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a really good DT is under rated.

 

Star allows everyone to do what they need to do, with less resistance. If it were madden it would be like adding +3 to everyones overall. Star allows Luke to play at his full potential. Theres a lot more about football than stats

Star had a good year and will only get better.  But honestly Luke had a great year with nobodies in 2012.  So no Star didn't make Luke.  Luke was also great without him and would be even if he were not here.  That is the thing, we couldn't do without Luke but honestly we could be okay without Star. It is good we don't have to but he is not the glue like Luke is.

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Star

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lol no. absolutly not. just star.

 

 

jk youre right. Lets just say we have good pices, and we have a good coaching staff to orcastrate them.

 

i wonder if i spelled that right

You and Rum are out in left field.  You obviously confuse a good piece of the puzzle with the keystone of the puzzle. You don't get to the NFL MVP without being the best player on your team as well as on most other teams as well.  And that is voted by a consensus of folks not just my opinion.

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You and Rum are out in left field. You obviously confuse a good piece of the puzzle with the keystone of the puzzle. You don't get to the NFL MVP without being the best player on your team as well as on most other teams as well. And that is voted by a consensus of folks not just my opinion.


I'm not confusing anything but congrats on being condescending like usual. I have a different way of looking at it. You don't agree. Ok. And again best player is not the same as most important

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Its funny that you could say Star and probably be right just as much as you could say Luke and be right. Good argument to have, its one of those two. They are both elite.

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Generally speaking, a great DE carries more value than a great defensive tackle, who in turn carries more value than a LB.

 

Luke is an exception to the rule. He makes everyone on our defense work as a unit, and you add that to his exceptional talent and instincts and he becomes the most important cog in our D.

 

We've seen that neither CJ nor Hardy can single-handedly improve a D, at least to a significant degree. I don't believe Star could do it alone either. But there is no doubt that our D was instantly better once Luke became our starting MLB. He is just a really special player.

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I'm not confusing anything but congrats on being condescending like usual. I have a different way of looking at it. You don't agree. Ok. And again best player is not the same as most important

The point is that isn't just me but virtually everyone else who agrees that Luke is the most important person which is why he was the NFL DPOY.  Ask any Panther player who is the most important player on the defense and they would say Luke.  That includes Star himself, I suspect.

 

If I am condescending you are argumentative and pigheaded.  Don't know you have room to be casting many stones.  

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The point is that isn't just me but virtually everyone else who agrees that Luke is the most important person which is why he was the NFL DPOY. Ask any Panther player who is the most important player on the defense and they would say Luke. That includes Star himself, I suspect.

If I am condescending you are argumentative and pigheaded. Don't know you have room to be casting many stones.


Ok cool

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I think we are at the point where a shut down corner would take our D from very good to great! But Luke is by far the most important

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I think we are at the point where a shut down corner would take our D from very good to great! But Luke is by far the most important

If we could pick up a shutdown corner at 28, it would be huge given the wide receivers we have to face in our division.  It would be a very important piece.

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Wishing on a Star!

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