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Hornets Expected To Target Arron Afflalo and Jameer Nelson (Also News On McBob and Big Al)


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#46 JJman

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 08:56 PM

Getting a good SG improves the whole team a lot. Kemba especially. At the cost of a late first rounder, why not?

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 10:06 PM

I like Afflalo and would be happy to have him. With that being said, I would be happier to use that Detroit pick and pay ~4 million more per year for Gordon Hayward.


I like Afflalo more then Hayward.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 10:15 PM

I like Afflalo more then Hayward.

 

Why is that? Not trying to be condescending, seriously wanting your opinion.

 

I think Hayward gives us a better ballhandler, better passing, and better at creating in isolation situations. Not to mention he has better size and already has experience with Big Al, plus the whole part about him being 24 with room to improve whereas Afflalo is 29 and likely has peaked in his career arch.

 

Again, I'm a fan of Afflalo. He's a deadeye shooter and that would help this team. I just prefer Hayward over him, even if it means trading more and giving up more money.



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Posted 30 April 2014 - 10:30 PM

Why is that? Not trying to be condescending, seriously wanting your opinion.

I think Hayward gives us a better ballhandler, better passing, and better at creating in isolation situations. Not to mention he has better size and already has experience with Big Al, plus the whole part about him being 24 with room to improve whereas Afflalo is 29 and likely has peaked in his career arch.

Again, I'm a fan of Afflalo. He's a deadeye shooter and that would help this team. I just prefer Hayward over him, even if it means trading more and giving up more money.

Affalo has actually been the top scorer for a team and avg. More points then Hayward. Not to mention cheaper.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 10:31 PM

I'd rather just bring Sessions back for cheaper and we may never see what Zeller can do if McBob hangs around.

 

Also if Chicago has to get rid of Taj Gibson to make a run at Melo I'd love to inquire about landing him.



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Posted 30 April 2014 - 10:43 PM

I'd rather just bring Sessions back for cheaper and we may never see what Zeller can do if McBob hangs around.

 

Also if Chicago has to get rid of Taj Gibson to make a run at Melo I'd love to inquire about landing him.

I don't think Zeller is ready quite yet. McBob for one more year would be preferable imo (I can't believe I just said that after all the poo I've given him this year).



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Posted 30 April 2014 - 10:51 PM

Unless some team offers a ton for McBob (I doubt it) I don't see any way he's not on this team next season. Everyone from Big Al, Kemba, Coach Clifford, MJ, Cho, and Higgins, all love him and talk about how much he means to the success of this team. I get frustrated with his lack of scoring at times but if we can add a scorer at the 2 and at backup PG then we can live with MKG and McBob in the starting unit.



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Posted 30 April 2014 - 11:46 PM

I like Nick Young's game as well. But his attitude and how he fits in this locker room is a mystery.

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Posted 01 May 2014 - 01:23 AM

Reed tweeted the following...

@SteveReedAP: To me, it seems the Bobcats top two positions they'll look to upgrade are the 2 spot and 3 spot, in that order. Then add backup PG and C.

What about this option...

- Sign Nelson @ 2 yrs, 4 mil a piece (he'll take a paycut because he's wants to play for coach Cliff and because when he is released he will be making an extra $2 mil.
- Sign Luol Deng @ 2 yrs, $10 mil a piece
- Sign Jason Smith $2 yrs, $4 mil a piece
- Re-Sign CDR (vet min)
- Cut Brendan Haywood
- Trade Portland's pick and Gerald Henderson for Arron Afflalo
- Draft Gary Harris with Detroit's pick (assuming we get it.
- Draft DeAndre Kane with our 2nd round pick.

PG: Kemba Walker, Jameer Nelson, DeAndre Kane
SG: Arron Afflalo, Gary Harris, Gary Neal, Jeff Taylor
SF: Luol Deng, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Chris Douglas-Roberts
PF: Josh McRoberts, Cody Zeller
C: Al Jefferson, Jason Smith, Bismack Biyombo

You could do all of this, and end up over the cap by less than $5 million and have a really, really solid 1-2 punch with a first and second unit that can both score and defend.

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Posted 01 May 2014 - 09:29 AM

Just because we have cap space this year doesn't mean you have to spend all that money. Your logic is leaving us with issues with the ability to resign players that will be due for a raise in the 15/16 season.

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Posted 01 May 2014 - 09:30 AM

Reed tweeted the following...

@SteveReedAP: To me, it seems the Bobcats top two positions they'll look to upgrade are the 2 spot and 3 spot, in that order. Then add backup PG and C.

What about this option...

- Sign Nelson @ 2 yrs, 4 mil a piece (he'll take a paycut because he's wants to play for coach Cliff and because when he is released he will be making an extra $2 mil.
- Sign Luol Deng @ 2 yrs, $10 mil a piece
- Sign Jason Smith $2 yrs, $4 mil a piece
- Re-Sign CDR (vet min)
- Cut Brendan Haywood
- Trade Portland's pick and Gerald Henderson for Arron Afflalo
- Draft Gary Harris with Detroit's pick (assuming we get it.
- Draft DeAndre Kane with our 2nd round pick.

PG: Kemba Walker, Jameer Nelson, DeAndre Kane
SG: Arron Afflalo, Gary Harris, Gary Neal, Jeff Taylor
SF: Luol Deng, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Chris Douglas-Roberts
PF: Josh McRoberts, Cody Zeller
C: Al Jefferson, Jason Smith, Bismack Biyombo

You could do all of this, and end up over the cap by less than $5 million and have a really, really solid 1-2 punch with a first and second unit that can both score and defend.


I would be behind all of those. However I don't think there is a chance that Orlando gives up Afflalo for just 28 and hendo. Pretty sure they would demand the pistons pick.

Not sure id be willing to depart the pistons pick for Afflalo.


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Posted 01 May 2014 - 09:55 AM

Why is that? Not trying to be condescending, seriously wanting your opinion.

 

I think Hayward gives us a better ballhandler, better passing, and better at creating in isolation situations. Not to mention he has better size and already has experience with Big Al, plus the whole part about him being 24 with room to improve whereas Afflalo is 29 and likely has peaked in his career arch.

 

Again, I'm a fan of Afflalo. He's a deadeye shooter and that would help this team. I just prefer Hayward over him, even if it means trading more and giving up more money.

I think Afflalo is tougher and stronger.



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Posted 01 May 2014 - 12:13 PM

Just because we have cap space this year doesn't mean you have to spend all that money. Your logic is leaving us with issues with the ability to resign players that will be due for a raise in the 15/16 season.


We will have Kemba's and Biz's birdright's, we can spend up to the luxury tax to resign them. Notice that most of these teams in the playoffs are over the cap and still re-sign their own guys under the birdrights clause.

This team is going to have to spend money to be successful. They decided to forego building though the draft meaning that unless you spend money you will be stuck in a mediocre spot.

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Posted 01 May 2014 - 12:15 PM

I think Orlando wants to get rid of Afflalo, they tried to ship him out earlier this year but I think they wanted a top 15 pick.

I think Hendo was #24 might do the trick because they are also saving $1.5 mil in salary.

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Posted 01 May 2014 - 12:52 PM

I think Orlando wants to get rid of Afflalo, they tried to ship him out earlier this year but I think they wanted a top 15 pick.

I think Hendo was #24 might do the trick because they are also saving $1.5 mil in salary.


Not exactly. They are saving money on next season. But I believe hendo will be under contract after next season.

Regardless, unless they win the lotto and draft wiggins. I don't see them taking that deal.

I could be wrong. I just don't sense an urgency to unload him if I am Orlando. He is very productive for his contract. They would be selling him while is value is high.

Ftr. I hope they would make your trade.


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