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#31 csx

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 09:16 PM

In that case, she could still ask to have the charges dropped and it would be done if the DA agrees. This being a high profile case though, could change how things are typically handled. (My wife works for an attorney and sees these types of cases all the time...)


Its still completely up to the prosecutor. I know a spouse can refuse to testify. So does that mean anyone else cannot refuse?

Edited by csx, 13 May 2014 - 09:17 PM.


#32 Gin and Juice

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 09:16 PM

This is a lot different than the Rae Carruth situation

Nevertheless it is serious and disappointing


Agreed, however, domestic violence is a grim reminder of a murdered pregnant woman. If this case holds any merit, then no way JR can keep him on the team. The press will be too bad.

Side note, I personally think this girl got traded in on a different model this past weekend and she made a scene of things being her potential cash cow was slipping away. A vindictive temper tantrum! At least I hope that's what this is

#33 ladypanther

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 09:38 PM

I reserve judgment until the whole story is out. In about 95% of these types of cases, the charges are dropped by the alleged victim. I guess we will see how this one plays out.

 

Just because charges are dropped does not mean the accused is innocent.

 

I think in NC the police can take out charges if they see evidence of domestic violence.  If that is the case...the victim can't drop.  If she has documented injuries as reported.....trouble



#34 Snake

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 09:49 PM

All I'm saying is he should have learned from Charlie Murphy and locked himself in the bathroom.

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 08:33 PM

Just because charges are dropped does not mean the accused is innocent.

I think in NC the police can take out charges if they see evidence of domestic violence. If that is the case...the victim can't drop. If she has documented injuries as reported.....trouble.

Likewise, just because someone is charged, doesn't mean they are guilty either. You are right that the police can take out charges with evidence. However, if the alleged victim won't testify, the DA doesn't have much of a case. After hearing 911 calls, I can see this being dropped, right or wrong.

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 12:18 AM

We are getting ripped by other fan bases and social watch dogs. Big cat is not pleased. Bad timing for Hardy too. Ultimately he is owed due process. This just seems overblown to me. Neither required medical attention. People get angry and have a go at eachother sometimes. If it ends with this Hardy shouldn't be viewed as a woman beater.

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 07:07 AM

I am no way condoning Hardy's actions but it was a misdemeanor. They both were drunk and in the long run it is he said /she said. Other than the witnesses that heard the commotion no one saw anything. Hardy said she attacked him first and he went crazy.

 

I think she will get some money and Hardy might get suspended a game or two or three but it will blow over and Hardy will remain a Panther. IMO


Edited by DaveThePanther2008, 16 May 2014 - 07:11 AM.


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Posted 16 May 2014 - 07:38 AM

This is still a very serious issue, though because of the internet and social media, we've twisted this thing around so many times that it's easy for us to blow it off because "we are done with it."

 

Let's think about this:  Two young people's lives will be changed for ever.  Right now, I'm leaning towards Hardy's innocence of criminal activity.  Regardless though, he still has to carry this around for the rest of his life.  She will have to deal with her own reputation from these activities for the rest of her life.

 

Fact is there was no shortage of stupid that night.  If Hardy gets to play another down of pro football, he needs to thank his lucky stars.  If the girlfriend can get a normal job and have a good, normal life after this, she should thank her lucky stars as well.  



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Posted 16 May 2014 - 07:42 AM

They're not going to release a player with Hardy's talent over an incident like this.

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 07:49 AM

Hardy has just learned a major life lesson........pretty women are fuging crazy.



#41 CRA

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 08:02 AM

Hardy has just learned a major life lesson........pretty women are fuging crazy.


You still have a lot to learn young grasshopper...

Ugly, fugly, hot, cute, plain Jane....all women be crazy.

Just kidding ladies :)


























But seriously, women be crazy

#42 top dawg

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 08:27 AM

Hardy has just learned a major life lesson........pretty women are fuging crazy.

 

 

You still have a lot to learn young grasshopper...

Ugly, fugly, hot, cute, plain Jane....all women be crazy.

Just kidding ladies :)













But seriously, women be crazy

 

Let me go old school:

 

 

Lyrics:

If you wanna be happy
For the rest of your life,
Never make a pretty woman your wife,
So from my personal point of view,
Get an ugly girl to marry you.

If you wanna be happy
For the rest of your life,
Never make a pretty woman your wife,
So from my personal point of view,
Get an ugly girl to marry you.

A pretty woman makes her husband look small
And very often causes his downfall.
As soon as he marries her, then she starts
To do the things that will break his heart,
But if you make an ugly woman your wife,
You'll be happy for the rest of your life,
An ugly woman cooks her meals on time,
She'll always give you peace of mind.

If you wanna be happy
For the rest of your life,
Never make a pretty woman your wife,
So from my personal point of view,
Get an ugly girl to marry you.

Don't let your friends say
You have no taste,
Go ahead and marry anyway,
Though her face is ugly,
Her eyes don't match,
Take it from me she's a better catch.

If you wanna be happy
For the rest of your life,
Never make a pretty woman your wife,
So from my personal point of view,
Get an ugly girl to marry you.

Say man.
Hey baby.
I saw your wife the other day.
Yeah?
Yeah, she's ugly.
Man, she's ugly but she sure can cook, baby.
Yeah? Alright...

If you wanna be happy
For the rest of your life,
Never make a pretty woman your wife,
So from my personal point of view,
Get an ugly girl to marry you.

If you wanna be happy
For the rest of your life,
Never make a pretty woman your wife,
So from my personal point of view,
Get an ugly girl to marry you.

If you wanna be happy
For the rest of your life,
Never make a pretty woman your wife,
So from my personal point of view,
Get an ugly girl to marry you.

If you wanna be happy
For the rest of your life,
Never make a pretty woman your wife,
So from my personal point of view,
Get an ugly girl to marry you



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Posted 16 May 2014 - 08:33 AM

Once he's signed the franchise tag doesnt that mean all money is 100% guaranteed? How can we release him without a major cap hit?

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 08:36 AM

[quote name="CRA" post="2789521" timestamp="1400245327"]You still have a lot to learn young grasshopper...

Ugly, fugly, hot, cute, plain Jane....all women be crazy.

Just kidding ladies :)


























But seriously, women be crazy[/





Crazy is in the eye of the beholder :)

Edited by lola, 16 May 2014 - 08:37 AM.


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Posted 16 May 2014 - 09:10 AM

People in the NFL get arrested all the time. Even Jon Beason was arrested. There's guys with lengthy run-ins with the law that's still playing today AND making millions. Hardy won't do any time and eventually this will be the past

 

It also helps that Beason was proven not guilty for beating that guy outside a strip club. Had he been found guilty, I'm sure the organization would have changed it's tone.

 

A lot of these player contracts in sports are loaded with character clauses that teams use to get themselves out of paying up when players like Vick and Hernandez are caught in hot water. Right now, everything going on with Hardy is up in the air and it may turn out to be another Beason situation. We will see how this turns out.

 

I've known a few people in abusive relationships, and IMO the writing is on the wall here. For some reason, this whole thing reminds me of Fred Lane. I'm just glad it didn't end like that.

 

What I understand is why fans don't get that pro sports is a business?  I know fans what to feel like it's an escape from business and work, but at the end of the day these teams are companies and their employees (or athletes signed under contract) have to follow regulations and company procedures just like 99.9% of the workforce.

 

Richie Incognito chose to open his mouth and what he said goes beyond work place code. Again, pro sports is a business and when you are accused of workplace discrimination, you're gone. It's also why no player on a NFL team with half a brain will talk s*** to Michael Sam.

 

And just like a business, your employees represent your businesses' image. It is why a lot of businesses or teams aren't looking at Richie in a positive light right now and it's why he remains a free agent. This isn't to say that no business will hire a less than positive role model to represent their business. It isn't uncommon for some businesses to hire ex cons and in pro sports, teams like the Raiders and Bangles don't seem to have a problem with that either. :)

 

Still, if a team chooses to have a certain profile, a certain standard, a certain... whatever, then they choose what sort of people they want representing their team or business. I think Jerry with the exception of Smitty has really put his foot down on this sort of thing and since the Panthers are his team, his company and his image, don't be shocked - if found guilty - Hardy is given his release papers.

 

I hope he is found not guilty because he is an amazing athlete and we need him to win, but I also understand how business works and understand that the NFL is a business.




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