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#1 Jmac

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 06:41 AM

I am all for giving a person a second chance if he does his part to reform.This off season has been a circus between S.S.F.A and now this mess.I do believe G.H has a substance abuse problem( and yes,alcohol is what I mean). Definitly A..A is in order and counseling also.If he can change the course of his life then a contract offer with provisions of conduct would be reasonable.All the posts of booze on Twitter shows what he does in his down time.Stay out of the bars,get help for the addiction problem and grow up.He is on the cusp of flushing his career down the toilet.Hopefully there is no conviction and he gets it together.The guy has talent but is a problem child. What do you all think???? A second chance if he proves he is serious about football and a contract offer protecting the club or just cut ties regardless?

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 06:49 AM

I really don't know what to make of this situation. I'm tired of being "guilty by media" so I will wait until some facts come out. All we know is Greg is arrested and don't know the feel story. Some of the post I have stayed away from because we are so quick to judge without knowing the truth. I'm not sure really why he has to go to AA. It could have been because when cops arrived both Greg and the woman were intoxicated which I don't think warrants meetings but what do I know. There may be more instants not reported. I would hope that he is innocent and he gets to clear his name without a shadow of the doubt so we can move on from this. There isn't anything wrong with going to bars and posting drinks on twitter. Now if an individual has a true issue with letting go alcohol then yes they should get some help. There is this fellow in my city that was known to have a problem with alcohol. He was a great guy and I chatted with him a few times. Well, recently he passed and they believe it was from his alcohol issue. Just my two cents



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Posted 15 May 2014 - 06:51 AM

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I wish some of you people would come off your high horses.  OMG Greg Hardy went to a club and was drinking.    You expect him to sit at home and fuging knit some sweaters?  There is nothing wrong with an athlete or celebrity doing the same legal things we all do.  You may need to do some research on what an addiction to alcohol really is.  Drinking when your out having a good time is not an addiction.  Alcoholics normally dont advertise they they are alcoholics.  Hes just young and showing off, impressing his internet friends on instagram etc.  Unless you know him personally and see his actions on a daily basis dont assume someone has a fuging alcohol addiction.


Edited by chknwing, 15 May 2014 - 06:52 AM.


#4 Jmac

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 06:53 AM

If alcohol causes you to get into trouble then its a problem.Denying that fact is denying the problem

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 06:54 AM

I wish some of you people would come off your high horses.  OMG Greg Hardy went to a club and was drinking.    You expect him to sit at home and fuging knit some sweaters?  There is nothing wrong with an athlete or celebrity doing the same legal things we all do.  You may need to do some research on what an addiction to alcohol really is.  Drinking when your out having a good time is not an addiction.  Alcoholics normally dont advertise they they are alcoholics.  Hes just young and showing off, impressing his internet friends on instagram etc.  Unless you know him personally and see his actions on a daily basis dont assume someone has a fuging alcohol addiction.

 

 

I couldn't have said it better myself. People are acting like he has a problem because he is going out on a tuesday night. Well, guess what, this is the off season and if I didn't have to work the next day and I was invited to a party, I am there lol. Even then, after work on a weekday *gasp*, I may grab a couple cold ones and relax.  Good post though man



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Posted 15 May 2014 - 06:56 AM

Greg's just immature at this point and no, talent SHOULDN'T trump trouble but this is a results oriented business and that will buy him some leeway.




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Posted 15 May 2014 - 07:10 AM

Look, everyone has issues. Everyone. When these issues start to interfere with your daily life (relationships, career, etc) then it becomes a problem. It may just be he has extremely poor decision making skills that lead him to surround himself with crazy people. Either way, it needs to be addressed. He is a hugely talented guy, quirky to say the least, but hopefully it will all work out. Jerry just doesn't play when it comes to this stuff.

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 07:14 AM

The guy has a problem with alcohol.  Anyone who denies this fact may have as well.



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Posted 15 May 2014 - 07:25 AM

The guy has a problem with alcohol.  Anyone who denies this fact may have as well.

 

you are making judgements and assumptions based purely on what you have seen portrayed by the media.  you dont know Hardy.  Saying poo like that is ignorant.  Not sure if you actually listened to the 911 call but Hardy didnt exactly sound drunk.  actually he was quite clear spoken and coherent.  Drunk people with an addiction to alcohol dont normally do those things.  You think hardy would be able to hide an alcohol addiction from the panthers then your fuging bat poo crazy.  If they thought at all he had an addiction to alcohol, they would have never tagged him.



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Posted 15 May 2014 - 07:28 AM

Yup another denier.



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Posted 15 May 2014 - 07:32 AM

Yup another denier.



Either post an ACTUAL rebuttal or stop trolling.

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 07:37 AM

If a judge sentences you to AA 3 times per week, it's more than "he was hanging out with friends and is fine".

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 07:46 AM

If a judge sentences you to AA 3 times per week, it's more than "he was hanging out with friends and is fine".


Since Hardy was intoxicated when this happened(they both were), that's a pretty standard court order. That doesn't mean he's an alcoholic.

Edited by jtnc, 15 May 2014 - 07:46 AM.


#14 Snake

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 07:47 AM

REALLY? What happens to hardy could have happened to anyone here. Stop trying to hyperboil everything.

Edited by Snake, 15 May 2014 - 07:48 AM.


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Posted 15 May 2014 - 07:55 AM

glad I wasn't under a microscope when i was in my 20's.

 

and to answer the question...................depends on the talent and the amount of trouble.




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