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#16 beuer1

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 10:52 PM

man I did not realize Justin Williams was this good when he was on the canes. Our GM is retarded 

 

Williams was traded by the Hurricanes to the Los Angeles Kings for Patrick O'Sullivan and Calgary's 2nd round draft pick

 

We also got Rutuu for Ladd who is now capt of the jets. 

 

The canes are so mismanaged it really sucks

Justin Williams had major injury concerns (torn ACL and MCL and a broken hand in two years) so it was a matter of they didnt think he would be the same player when he came back.  I'm pretty sure he was injured when they traded him.  O'Sullivan was traded for Erik Cole who helped us reach the conference finals.  They did sign O'Sullivan like two years later but that guy has way more problems than being a bad hockey player.

 

Ladd was hot garbage here and the trade for Ruutu was a swap of disappointing former first round picks.  Ladd found his game in Chicago and Ruutu had a nice career here.



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Posted 04 June 2014 - 11:05 PM

man I did not realize Justin Williams was this good when he was on the canes. Our GM is retarded

Williams was traded by the Hurricanes to the Los Angeles Kings for Patrick O'Sullivan and Calgary's 2nd round draft pick

We also got Rutuu for Ladd who is now capt of the jets.

The canes are so mismanaged it really sucks

O'Sullivan was flipped for Erik Cole which makes it sting a little less but regardless it sucked (stint #2).

We literally did an overhaul after we won the cup in 06. Three years after we won the cup the team was entirely different... That team was good enough to win at least two cups and should have been kept together for two more seasons.

Craig Adams, Kevyn Adams, Keith Aucoin, Anton Babchuck, Rod Brind'Amour, Erik Cole, Matt Cullen, Mike Commodore, Martin Gerber, David Gove, Bret Hedican, Andrew Hutchinson, Frank Kaberle, Andrew Ladd, Chad LaRose, Mark Recchi, Eric Staal, Corey Stillman, Oleg Tverdovsky, Josef Vasicek, Niclas Wallin, Aaron Ward, Cam Ward, Justin Williams, Doug Weight, Glen Wesley, and Ray Whitney...

Damn

It's also funny how these guys continued to get better as they left...

Craig Adams is a career third-liner for the Penguins.
Erik Cole left and had good stints with the Habs and Stars.
Anton Babchuk had a couple good seasons for the Flames.
Mike Commodore had a few decent years with the Blue Jackets and Red Wings I believe.
Matt Cullen had some very good years with Minnesota.
Andrew Ladd eventually became the captain of the Jets.
Mark Recchi became a perennial playoff ***** with the Bruins.
Corey Stillman went on to have a good career with Florida before returning home.
Ray Whitney had a solid career with the Coyotes and Stars.
Doug Weight had a few good seasons with the Islanders.
Aaron Ward got a top four role in Boston before returning to Carolina.
Justin Williams became a monster for L.A.

And not to mention we traded Radim Vrbata during the season who has become a very good player for Phoenix.

And two years sometimes isn't enought, for the most part the Kings are the exact same team they were three years ago.

And to be quite frank, being a cheap team cost us. Sometimes you have to spend a little money to keep up with the big boys.

Edited by CarolinaPanthers8789, 05 June 2014 - 11:52 AM.


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 11:09 PM

Rangers really are lightning fast wow. Glad we pulled it out. Got outplayed until the 3rd IMO. GKG.


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 11:55 PM

Beuer is right though Williams couldn't stay healthy, he tore his ACL, MCL, Achilles tendon, and broke his hand all in the span of one year. Not to mention that was the second time Williams had torn his ACL and MCL.

It's a miracle he's still playing hockey if you think about it.

Edited by CarolinaPanthers8789, 04 June 2014 - 11:56 PM.


#20 panthers123

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 12:09 AM

Man it just seemed we let all the wrong players go and kept all the ones that were replaceable. After watching these playoffs I realize how far behind we actually are. It sucks too cause the Canes are in cap hell too but they got a sucky team to boot. At least the panthers have a good team to go along with the cap hell. I just don't see us getting away from the bottom 10 for next 3 years. 



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Posted 05 June 2014 - 12:16 AM

I don't think the overall roster is bad, we just lack leadership and consistency.

That team that won the cup had two players on it whose sweaters are in the rafters.

We need to start seeing the type of leadership that Brind'Amour and Wesley provided from the Staal brothers or we need to completely blow it up.

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 12:23 AM

This isn't the thread to discuss the Hurricanes so this is the last thing I'll say.

I don't have any inside info but I think that the current group will be given one more chance and if they aren't in playoff position come next seasons trade deadline then Eric Staal, Alex Semin, Jordan Staal etc... will all be traded for prospects, picks, and young players on the rise. The only untouchables being Skinner, Lindholm, Faulk, and whoever our draft pick is this year.

#23 KillerKat

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 06:08 AM

Dude, it was 5PM in LA on a Wednesday- when do you want them to start?
 
Rangers can't score unless they shoot the puck- 3 shots or something ridiculous in the third period isn't going to get it done.
 
Kings had a lot more left in the tank when it got to the final period and OT.


West Coast has to suffer some. Start it 4 - 4:30 pm their time. That way when it goes into OT, everyone can see it.

Btw, the actual game didn't start till almost 8:30. Maybe if they actually start the game the time it's scheduled on it might help also.

Edited by KillerKat, 05 June 2014 - 06:12 AM.


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Posted 05 June 2014 - 08:29 AM

West Coast has to suffer some. Start it 4 - 4:30 pm their time. That way when it goes into OT, everyone can see it.

Btw, the actual game didn't start till almost 8:30. Maybe if they actually start the game the time it's scheduled on it might help also.

 

The game ended before 11:30. I watched the entire thing and some of the post game and was still at work at 7 today (with a 35 mile commute). Starting it at 4 p.m. Pacific would have been retarded. 



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Posted 05 June 2014 - 09:29 AM

Great first game. Tough for Rangers, they played well and LA didn't, yet the result didn't go their way. 



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Posted 05 June 2014 - 10:37 AM

The game ended before 11:30. I watched the entire thing and some of the post game and was still at work at 7 today (with a 35 mile commute). Starting it at 4 p.m. Pacific would have been retarded.


Awesome 'cause you know everyone has the exact same metabolism and stuff.

Edited by KillerKat, 05 June 2014 - 10:38 AM.


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Posted 05 June 2014 - 10:39 AM

Like I said, if they actually started at 8 or a little before (anywhere between 7-8), hell just 7:45 would make a difference, the game would've been over by 11.

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Posted 05 June 2014 - 11:13 AM

O'Sullivan was flipped for Erik Cole which makes it sting a little less but regardless it sucked (stint #2).

We literally did an overhaul after we won the cup in 06. Three years after we won the cup the team was entirely different... That team was good enough to win at least two cups and should have been kept together for two more seasons.

Craig Adams, Kevyn Adams, Keith Aucoin, Anton Babchuck, Rod Brind'Amour, Erik Cole, Matt Cullen, Mike Commodore, Martin Gerber, David Gove, Bret Hedican, Andrew Hutchinson, Frank Kaberle, Andrew Ladd, Chad LaRose, Mark Recchi, Eric Staal, Corey Stillman, Oleg Tverdovsky, Josef Vasicek, Niclas Wallin, Aaron Ward, Cam Ward, Justin Williams, Doug Weight, Glen Wesley, and Ray Whitney...

Damn

It's also funny how these guys continued to get better as they left...

Craig Adams is a career third-liner for the Penguins.
Erik Cole left and had good stints with the Habs and Stars.
Anton Babchuk had a couple good seasons for the Flames.
Mike Commodore had a few decent years with the Blue Jackets and Red Wings I believe.
Matt Cullen had some very good years with Minnesota.
Andrew Ladd eventually became the captain of the Jets.
Mark Recchi became a perennial playoff ***** with the Bruins.
Corey Stillman went on to have a good career with Florida before returning home.
Ray Whitney had a solid career with the Coyotes and Stars.
Doug Weight had a few good seasons with the Islanders.
Aaron Ward got a top four role in Boston before returning to Carolina.
Justin Williams became a monster for L.A.

And not to mention we traded Radim Vrbata during the season who has become a very good player for Phoenix.

Matt Cullen and Aaron Ward followed the money to the Rangers after the cup.  Recchi and Weight were acquired during the season and were never going to be more than rentals.  The rest played at least two more years before leaving the Canes?

 

Also everyone bolded played at least two years for the canes after the cup year

 

(Maybe we should start a new thread? I dont want to keep derailing this one but I kind of wanted to point this out.)



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Posted 05 June 2014 - 11:15 AM

Like I said, if they actually started at 8 or a little before (anywhere between 7-8), hell just 7:45 would make a difference, the game would've been over by 11.

 

Do you realize how difficult it would be for people to get to the Staples Center in time for a 7:45 puck drop? 



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Posted 05 June 2014 - 11:23 AM

The next one is on Saturday so it shouldnt be a problem for anyone.




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