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#61 mav1234

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 10:52 PM

I'll start caring when a significant portion of the Native American community starts actually being offended, rather than a few isolated groups government officials are blowing up to show everyone how "cool and progressive" they are. This is a fabricated issue by people who want there to be a problem.

 

the majority of native americans have more pressing concerns.  but regardless of if the majority of them are deeply offended, the very first instance of public protest to the name was by a native american activism group in 1968. there is no debating that there are native americans that are insulted by this name, and a decent portion of them.

 

there is also no debating that the word redskin is an ethnic slur.

 

given that there are some people insulted by the use of a racial slur as a team name, what reason, exactly, do you have for suggesting it not be changed?

 

let's say 10% of native americans find it offensive.  is that enough for you?  what's your "offended threshold" for when a racial slur becomes inappropriate for use in a fuging team name>



#62 The Huddler

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 10:52 PM

yes, native americans, please fix the debt and economic crashes you caused.

srsly?

What? Where in my post did I blame native Americans?

And yeah, seriously, we have bigger issues to fug with than feelings in this country. Just fug it

Edited by The Huddler, 10 June 2014 - 10:56 PM.


#63 mav1234

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 10:57 PM

What? Where in my post did I blame native Americans?

And yeah, seriously, we have bigger issues to fug with than feelings in this country. How about we fix bigger important issues instead of feelings

 

 

nobody said this was our biggest issue in this country but it's fuging ridiculous when people like you act like this issue is somehow detracting from the "real issues" in this country. it's not.  if you don't care, by all means, voice your displeasure over the internet that people do actually care, but don't act like taking action on this issue, making a statement on this issue, is somehow downplaying any other issues the nation faces.

 

edit: well your post was basically "stop fuging around with this and fix our economy."  did you notice who put out the video?  so you're telling this native american action group to fix a problem they have literally nothing to do with, instead of addressing an issue they actually do have something to do with?


Edited by mav1234, 10 June 2014 - 11:15 PM.


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Posted 10 June 2014 - 11:03 PM

I just think its soft dude! Why should we change the name of a historic team? These polititians should do something that fugging matters

Edited by The Huddler, 10 June 2014 - 11:03 PM.


#65 mav1234

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 11:11 PM

I just think its soft dude! Why should we change the name of a historic team? These polititians should do something that fugging matters

 

The team name is racist, that's why.  It has nothing to do with being soft, it's disrespectful and ridiculous.

 

Not sure where politician stuff comes in.  I don't think this add was created by either the Dems nor the Pubs.



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Posted 10 June 2014 - 11:12 PM

it's fuging retarded when people like you..


Hey, retarded is offensive and you cannot use that term anymore. Please change your statement because it offends me.

Lol

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 11:14 PM

Never understood why they don't change it to the "Washington Natives".  I feel like that would be just as honorable to the Native Americans without being completely ignorant in the process.  Plus they could keep the logo relatively intact.

 

Worst part of this argument is when people bring up the blackhawks or braves and ask if I care about those team names.  It is the quickest way to end an intelligent conversation.



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Posted 10 June 2014 - 11:15 PM

Hey, retarded is offensive and you cannot use that term anymore. Please change your statement because it offends me.

Lol

 

 

 

shouldn't you be fixing the economy? :P



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Posted 10 June 2014 - 11:16 PM

shouldn't you be fixing the economy? :P


I'm a tax payer.

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 11:17 PM

And I never said the native Americans are responsible for the poo economy. Just perhaps our focus should be on things that are huge dangers to our country

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 11:20 PM

I just think its soft dude! Why should we change the name of a historic team? These polititians should do something that fugging matters

Yeah, no fixing the economy until we are oil free.

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 11:24 PM

The Washington name is offensive and the Cleveland logo is offensive. But those are the only Native American themed teams I think are in dire need of fixing. Also while I don't think it's super offensive I think it's a little odd to name your team after an entire race of people. The Braves is a pretty good name because it's specifically referring to the warriors of a certain culture, no different than naming a team the Knights, Vikings or Samurai.

 

Also since threads always seem to go this way, I'm not trying to claim that people don't have the right to be offended however much they want by whatever they want, but that doesn't mean people who are offended should always get their way.



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Posted 10 June 2014 - 11:29 PM

it really shouldn't matter how many people are offended and if we should let people who are offended get their way. there are certain words that are simply inappropriate for use as a team name, and racial slurs are part of that list.



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Posted 10 June 2014 - 11:49 PM

Didn't studies come out saying 90% of native Americans didn't find it offensive?

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 12:11 AM

Didn't studies come out saying 90% of native Americans didn't find it offensive?


I think they were "studies" financed by the team. I can conduct a study to back any narrative I choose. I just want Washington fans to be miserable, is that too much to ask?

Edited by SCP, 11 June 2014 - 12:12 AM.



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