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 Henderson for Barnes.  

 

Where did this talk about trading Barnes for #9 come from? After Barnes' last year, you could probably get him for the #24 pick, and definitely for either "Henderson + #24" or "Jeff Taylor + #24." 

 

If they went that route, I would still go after Gordon Hayward, because Barnes is really a SG in a SF's body. If he was 6'6 instead of 6'8, there would be no difference in how he plays, or how he is capable of playing, so you could play him at SG with Hayward at SF, which means Kemba wouldn't be the long-term solution at PG because you'd want a PG that was at least 6'3, or taller (aka, "Kyrie Irving"). 

 

Only thing with Barnes is he's probably going to be a piece Minnesota is looking for if they trade Love to Golden State, but I am open to Charlotte getting in on that deal, if they actually are interested in a Harrison Barnes. Getting him and Minnesota's 13th pick is doable, since Minnesota has four draft picks this year, and GS would really only be getting Kevin Love. 

 

Give Minnesota #9 in that trade scenario and let them draft Randle if he falls because of his injury, and they'll be ecstatic. Doubt he falls to #13. 

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Barnes is terrible

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#9 for barnes could possibly be the stupidest trade proposal I have ever heard. And I was a Bobcats fan. I'd be willing to bet GS would take #24 for Barnes. Might have to throw in #45 too but still #9 is fuging retarded honestly

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Barnes is terrible. Can people please stop talking about this guy? He was bad last year, had a decent playoff series against a very favorable matchup, and then was bad this year. He's not going to flip a switch and live up to his high school hype all of a sudden- he's just not very good. 

 

You must mean "very favorable matchups" since Golden State played both Denver and San Antonio last year, and he played well in both. Everyone recognizes Barnes' "potential," which is what all of this is about. Barnes is still in the same stage of his career as the 2014 draft class is, but he's had a chance to show flashes in real NBA games. 

 

His main problem in Golden State is he only gets 6-8 shots a game, because Curry, Thompson and Lee are going to chuck it up close to 60 times a game between the three of them. A guy with his offensive reputation would've been getting 12-16 shots in Charlotte had they drafted him. When he gets more shots he tends to produce

 

Him being around MJ could be good or bad for him. If he doesn't mind the pressure that MJ would put on him (because Michael knows that Barnes studied his tape when he was growing up and tried to model his game after his because his mother was MJ's "biggest fan"), then it could work out, because his problem is that he is passive-aggressive. He tends to pout, and sulk, and then disappear if he determines that the situation around him is "stupid" or counter-productive, instead of having the mindset that he is just going to go out there and get his like it's a pickup game no matter what anyone else is doing. That's what he'd be hearing from MJ. If he didn't listen to Jordan, then there's no hope for him. I think Charlotte could be the best thing to happen to Barnes, because if he can't succeed in Charlotte, it should be clear to him and the rest of the league that he can't succeed anywhere. Right now, he's probably figured out that his stats are affected by being the 6th to 8th option on a team behind guys that have a green light to chuck it whenever they feel like it.

 

His second problem is not his "ball handling." It's the fact that he's not "strong with the basketball." He's weak and tentative, and isn't comfortable handling it. Jordan wasn't a great ball handler, but he was comfortable with it in his hands. That's what matters the most. MKG is not a great ball handler, but he's strong with the basketball, so you're still not going to take it from him. Any player can get to that point, including Barnes. You don't have to be Pete Maravich at SG or SF, just comfortable handling it. I'd rather have Barnes at SG and Hayward at SF, but if they had Barnes and MKG, that could work as well, then let Jordan and Pippen get in the gym with them and teach them a few things, and again, if they fail after that, then it'll be clearer than ever that they just weren't good enough. 

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#9 for barnes could possibly be the stupidest trade proposal I have ever heard. And I was a Bobcats fan. I'd be willing to bet GS would take #24 for Barnes. Might have to throw in #45 too but still #9 is fuging retarded honestly

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It only makes sense under the scenario I presented, where they get in on a three team deal with Minnesota, where they end up with Barnes and Minnesota's #13, while giving #9 to Minnesota in return along with another player going to either Minnesota or the other team. 

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Why do you keep creating these horrible defensive teams??

Do you remember who our coach is??

Clue

He likes defense a lot.

I swear people overact so much. It's basketball! Not football. You need good defense but at the end of the day you gotta have offense.

Our HC likes defense a lot. We're already pretty damn good defensively. Why did we get swept by the Heat? No OFFENSE!

Barnes and Melo are not going to kill our defense.

We were pretty good last year not bc of our defensive players, but of Clifford's style: a slow paced offense that likes to defend on the other end.

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I swear people overact so much. It's basketball! Not football. You need good defense but at the end of the day you gotta have offense.

Our HC likes defense a lot. We're already pretty damn good defensively. Why did we get swept by the Heat? No OFFENSE!

Barnes and Melo are not going to kill our defense.

We were pretty good last year not bc of our defensive players, but of Clifford's style: a slow paced offense that likes to defend on the other end.

The team was near last in the NBA defensively when MKG wasn't on the floor. Close to first with him on the floor... Just saying. I've posted the stats already on another thread.

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I don't know how I feel about Barnes. He is such a horridly inconsistent player.

he'll be more consistent with us, where he'd be a starter. He said in an interview a while back he had a blow to his confidence when Iggy was signed to Gs Because He Thought He Was Going To Be The Starting SF of the future after his stellar playoffs the year prior

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People forget barnes is 6'8", can get to the cup, and is a better shooter than 90% of our roster...

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It only makes sense under the scenario I presented, where they get in on a three team deal with Minnesota, where they end up with Barnes and Minnesota's #13, while giving #9 to Minnesota in return along with another player going to either Minnesota or the other team.

So:

GSW: Kevin Love

MN: no9 pick

CLT: Barnes + no13

????

CLT and GS would be robbing MN.

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The team was near last in the NBA defensively when MKG wasn't on the floor. Close to first with him on the floor... Just saying. I've posted the stats already on another thread.

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I get that. MKG's impact on defense is huge. But, again it all starts with Clifford's coaching style.

Plus, if MKG is that good defensively then I'm def not worry about having Barnes and Melo (if possible). They're not going to hurt MKG.

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Barnes should play most of his minutes at PF, thats what he played in the 2013 playoffs when he looked great filling in for Lee.  Hes got decent size at 6'8 and is strong enough to defend all but a handful of PFs in the league right now, plus he gives you elite shooting from that spot.

 

Thats where the league is heading, but GS is too attached to playing Lee 35 minutes every night to see what they have in Barnes

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