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What's next for the Heat's Big 3?

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So much overreacting. The "big" 3 will be back- Bosh/Wade aren't turning down all that money, and Lebron knows the hit his reputation would take if he bolted just because he lost a finals with his hand picked superteam.

 

They still play in the east and have a free path to the finals. There are so many "ifs" surrounding a potential Melo/Bulls challenger that it's silly to seriously talk about that at this point. Wade isn't what he used to be but he can still contribute, Bosh still has game- the Spurs have made a lot of really good players look really bad over the past few months. Put the Heat against any other team and I think the Heat win, or at least come awfully close. The Heat will make the finals next year and have a decent chance at winning, even if they aren't the overwhelming favorite. How much more can you ask for?

 

Worst case, Wade and Bosh really are done and the Heat lose again next year. They will still make it very far in the playoffs even if they don't win a title. Their contracts will be up and Lebron will be able to leave to a new team with a valid "I don't want to rebuild" excuse, and his reputation will be intact. Until that point comes you don't mess it up- make tweaks and try to overcome weaknesses, because the gap isn't that huge. The Spurs were something special this season, there's no reason to panic and blow everything up because of a loss to them. Just a few years ago people wanted the Spurs to blow up their Duncan/Manu/Parker core- how did that play out? 

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Wade had surgery way back in 2002 while he was still at Marquette to remove his meniscus so he wouldn't have to get rehab and affect his 2003 draft stock. So while he's actually 32, his knees act more like 42, hence the reason he didn't play much in the regular season. It doesn't help that he has never changed his playing style.

 

Lebron and Bosh aren't old. And for all the flack he's going to get for this series Lebron still put up his regular numbers. It's the bench that was terrible. Rashard Lewis, Shane Battier, Ray Allen, Udonis Haslem are all years removed from being effective NBA players, and the Spurs, meanwhile, could roll out effective bench players night in and night out that would just wear Miami down leading to what we ended up seeing in the last three games.

 

Spoelstra's offense took Bosh from a star PF in Toronto who could put up 20 and 10 a night to a 6'11 small forward who just shoots 3 pointers all the time.

 

Hopefully, this series will buck the trend of the "superteam" and GMs will put more of an emphasis on ball movement on offense and building quality depth on the bench in lieu of a bunch of max contracts. Alas, if this is the end of the Big 3, they still got to 4 straight finals and won 2 titles in that span, and every franchise will take that if they can get it.

 

Spoelstra got outcoached pretty badly. As for the bench, eh that's a stretch, and honestly just shifting blame. They just won back to back championships with those guys that are apparently "years removed from being effective".

 

They have Ray Allen to thank for the game 6 win in last years finals. Now he's a scrub? That's funny.

 

Lebron chose to go to Miami, and immediately put the high expectations on his team with the "not two, not three, not four, not five, not six, not seven" quote about how many championships they would win together.

 

It's one thing to lose the finals, but to lose the way they did is just embarrassing for all involved, including Lebron.

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I wouldn't mind James going back to Cleveland.  There he could join up with Irving and most likely Joel Embiid.

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I wouldn't mind James going back to Cleveland. There he could join up with Irving and most likely Joel Embiid.


Irving needs how to learn to play D before the Cavs become a contender.

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The Big 3 is no more. Someone from that group is leaving... and even if they didn't, Wade is no longer what he was when they first joined up. It's done. From the stuff Wade has been saying throughout the year, and then Lebron's non-committal answers after losing the Finals, I think it's clear they know Lebron is going to explore his options, and Bosh likely will too. Bosh is more likely to stay if his role/status is increased and he told Dan LeBatard that he loves it there... but, I'm almost certain Lebron is leaving.

People have to get it out of their heads that the greatest player in the game wouldn't switch teams, not once, but twice, to pursue a championship... because really, that's what a lot of these guys are going to do. It's a different generation.

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Spoelstra got outcoached pretty badly. As for the bench, eh that's a stretch, and honestly just shifting blame. They just won back to back championships with those guys that are apparently "years removed from being effective".

 

They have Ray Allen to thank for the game 6 win in last years finals. Now he's a scrub? That's funny.

 

Lebron chose to go to Miami, and immediately put the high expectations on his team with the "not two, not three, not four, not five, not six, not seven" quote about how many championships they would win together.

 

It's one thing to lose the finals, but to lose the way they did is just embarrassing for all involved, including Lebron.

 

The bench is actually a legitimate argument.  They underperformed that's the whole point.  That's part of the reason the results are different this time around.  All credit to Spurs and Pop though, because wow. 

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If the big three opt in, would the T-Wolves do a trade involving Bosh and Wade [plus possible draft pick] for Love and Martin?

If that happened the base would be Martin (SG), LeBron (SF), and Love (PF). If they bring back Chalmers he's a solid enough ball handler, but equally if they keep their first round pick they could look at Napier or Ennis if he's still on the board. If they then bring back Ray Allen cheap, he'd been a solid player for them. They could look at a defensive stopper like Sefolosha who can play SG and SF. Then look at sorting out a solid center, perhaps grab Gortat if they can afford to make these moves. It would leave them with:

PG: Chalmers or draft pick / Cole
SG: Martin / Allen / Sefolosha
SF: LeBron / Sefolosha / Beasley
PF: Love / Beasley / Lewis
C: Gortat / Haslem

If they can bring back Anderson as well, they could feasibly retool this off season and rebuild on the fly around LeBron. I don't think this scenario will happen, but they could persuade LeBron to stay by showing the ambition to build around him with top tier free agents and bring in players that can improve their weaknesses from last season.

That said, it wouldn't surprise me to see LeBron opt out. He'd be best off staying in the East so he has an easier road to the finals. Not sure which team, we could be an attractive landing spot, or so could the Bulls.

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Spoelstra got outcoached pretty badly. As for the bench, eh that's a stretch, and honestly just shifting blame. They just won back to back championships with those guys that are apparently "years removed from being effective".

 

They have Ray Allen to thank for the game 6 win in last years finals. Now he's a scrub? That's funny.

 

Lebron chose to go to Miami, and immediately put the high expectations on his team with the "not two, not three, not four, not five, not six, not seven" quote about how many championships they would win together.

 

It's one thing to lose the finals, but to lose the way they did is just embarrassing for all involved, including Lebron.

 

They won back-to-back championships because 1. They had a bench that could contribute and 2. Dwyane Wade could actually make a meaningful contribution.

 

Just because Ray Allen hits a wide open 3 on a lucky bounce to win game 6, that doesn't mean he reverts back to Sonics/Celtics Ray. That's like saying 2013 Steve Smith is still in 2005 form just because he burns Tarell Brown one time for a TD in the playoffs. Ray's job on this Heat team was to space the floor and hit open 3s. That's it.

 

These superteams have shelf lives because of the nature of the max contracts that were signed by the stars. This year, they couldn't afford to keep Mike Miller, a very effective sixth man during the championship run and ended up trading away more interior depth in Joel Anthony. Those two guys had to be replaced with cheaper options in Beasley and Oden who absolutely flopped as free agent signings. The end result is a team that looks eerily similar to Lebron's Cavs teams he wanted to get away from, especially with Wade's knees giving out.

 

I'm glad a franchise built on consistency and true "team" basketball won the championship, but you can't blame the only guy on the losing team who performed up to his ability in this series be stuck with all the blame here.

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I don't see the Heat lineup staying together. From everything I've read, Wade has a player option for like $20 million a year or he can test the market. After this Finals display, I doubt anybody matches that. How bad does he want to win? He will have to take a lot less and may never see the money again.

 

After all, this was the guy who once said, I need to eat" on Mike&Mike during the NBA lockout over concerns that he might not get his money.

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Spurs are going to 3-peat if Duncan doesn't retire.

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Spurs are going to 3-peat if Duncan doesn't retire.

3peat? They just won one... I don't think Duncan is staying 2 years, and we don't know what roster changes will go on around the league in 2 years time.

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