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Kurt Warner a Hall of Famer?

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Longevity and rings help you a lot.

 

Where is he on the all time yards and TD list?

 

Maybe i'll go look it up.

 

In fact I would ask how many starting QBS with 3superbowl starts are not HOFers?

 

Maybe I'll go look it up

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If he gets in and they continue to omit Stabler i'll LOL if we're basing him getting in on a ring and sb appearance.

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Jim Plunkett was 2-0 in the Superbowl.  If 1-2 gets Warner in, shouldn't 2-0 get JP in?

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No. Only had 1 great season and 3 or 4 decent ones.

 

This post shows how spoiled we are as football fans. If Cam Newton had his 2013 numbers in 1999, he would have been fourth in passing TDs. Instead he was tied for 12th.

In 1999, only Steve Beuerlein and Kurt Warner had over 30 passing TDs. Steve had 36 and Warner had 41. 41 passing TDs in 1999 was huge.... that made Kurt Warner the only person not named Dan Marino to have thrown 40 TDs in a season (at the time).

 

A few years later, he put up the second most passing yardage in history (at the time). Then he had his hand (wrist?) injury and it took a long time for him to get over that. The year he played for the Giants, he was only there to mentor Eli. The Giants were definitely a run first team; much of the passing game even went through Tiki Barber.

 

When he got to Arizona, he had no run game and no defense. When he finally was given control of the team (he was originally set to mentor Matt Leinart) and had a run game and a modicum of defense, the Cardinals were NFC Champs.

 

If you look at it with a modern perspective, Warner's numbers were simply above average. But if you look at his numbers in context with history and the era in which he played, he would definitely get in on a "slow year."

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This post shows how spoiled we are as football fans. If Cam Newton had his 2013 numbers in 1999, he would have been fourth in passing TDs. Instead he was tied for 12th.

In 1999, only Steve Beuerlein and Kurt Warner had over 30 passing TDs. Steve had 36 and Warner had 41. 41 passing TDs in 1999 was huge.... that made Kurt Warner the only person not named Dan Marino to have thrown 40 TDs in a season (at the time).

 

A few years later, he put up the second most passing yardage in history (at the time). Then he had his hand (wrist?) injury and it took a long time for him to get over that. The year he played for the Giants, he was only there to mentor Eli. The Giants were definitely a run first team; much of the passing game even went through Tiki Barber.

 

When he got to Arizona, he had no run game and no defense. When he finally was given control of the team (he was originally set to mentor Matt Leinart) and had a run game and a modicum of defense, the Cardinals were NFC Champs.

 

If you look at it with a modern perspective, Warner's numbers were simply above average. But if you look at his numbers in context with history and the era in which he played, he would definitely get in on a "slow year."

No. It shows i have higher standards for HoF. I don't like the way the game has been offensively steered. My favorite era to watch is the 70s. I justdon't think he's a HoFer. The year he threw for all that yardage? Guess what he also threw 22 picks. It's notlike he played in some offensively sputtering era. He was just one of the first to usher in the new. Outside the 2 seasons you mentioned he never had a qb rating over 90 except 2008. That's not HoF to me. you've just mentioned a couple great seasons. It takes more than that to be a HoFer.

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2-time MVP

greatest UDFA ever

Most passing yards in superbowl (x3)

Over 1100 passing yards in a single post season

Career 65.5 completion %

career 93.7 passer rating

His wikipedia page has more records than I'm willing to copy and paste from a phone.

But yeah, let's judge him on the years he mentored Eli Manning and Matt Leinart.

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Remember, the hall of fame isn't called the hall of stats. It honors players who have made a mark on the game. Warner showed that exotic offenses can win championships. He showed the "next man up" mentality can work if you put some confidence in the guy. His story is an inspiration to all college players who don't get drafted.

Being old and pining for 40 years ago holds no bearing on who is chosen to represent the NFL in Canton.

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2-time MVP

greatest UDFA ever

Most passing yards in superbowl (x2)

Over 1100 passing yards in a single post season

Career 65.5 completion %

career 93.7 passer rating

His wikipedia page has more records than I'm willing to copy and paste from a phone.

But yeah, let's judge him on the years he mentored Eli Manning and Matt Leinart.

 

Why couldn't he perform those years as well like a HoFer would? You mentioned 1 record btw and you were inaccurate in your 3x

Remember, the hall of fame isn't called the hall of stats. It honors players who have made a mark on the game. Warner showed that exotic offenses can win championships. He showed the "next man up" mentality can work if you put some confidence in the guy. His story is an inspiration to all college players who don't get drafted.

Being old and pining for 40 years ago holds no bearing on who is chosen to represent the NFL in Canton.

Exotic offenses can win championships? Raiders in 76 80 83. Redskins in the glory years. I'm a huge Warner fan. I've made my career in a grocery store believe me i love Warner. Just don't think he's HoF. Just outside? Yes. 

 

I'm not old. You assume that cause i said my favorite era is the 70s as a reply to you saying this shows how fans are spoiled. You proceeded to insinuate i was 13 then 60 in 2 posts. Which is it? And the current HoF is a joke. Also you have no bearing on who is chosen to represent the NFL in Canton either. So quit being pretentious. I'm not the only one who said No he's not a HoFer. 

 

By your logic plunkett should be in. And Warner in before Stabler is lulz.

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