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#1 fieryprophet

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Posted 30 June 2014 - 01:23 PM

http://www.nationalf...a-Panthers.html

Outlook

As I said earlier, this team is not as strong on paper as it was a year ago. There are a lot of unanswered questions going into camp at various positions.

One thing I do know is that the Panthers have an excellent coaching staff and they will get the most out of every player. While Carolina may not repeat as division champs, they will challenge for a wild card playoff spot.


Edited by fieryprophet, 30 June 2014 - 01:24 PM.


#2 panthers55

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Posted 30 June 2014 - 01:38 PM

I am waiting for the answer to the questions he brings up.  Should be some great battles in camp in 4 weeks.



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Posted 30 June 2014 - 01:40 PM

I really don't believe we looked better on paper last season than this season. I just don't get that at all.



#4 thomas96

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Posted 30 June 2014 - 01:41 PM

Best I've read about us.

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Posted 30 June 2014 - 01:50 PM

Tre Boston from NC State, huh? LOL But otherwise he's actually done research



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Posted 30 June 2014 - 01:59 PM

A little clarification for readers...

 

The article refers to Olsen as a "move' tight end.  A "move" tight end is one that can line up all over the field and be a threat.  Other TEs referred to this way are guys like Tony Gonzalez, Jimmy Graham and Aaron Hernandez.  Not that different from a primarily receiving tight end but designated 'move' because they move around in formation.

 

You might also see the term "joker" tight end used for this type, though "joker" is meant more to describe the type of player who's a hybrid tight end/wide receiver.  There's good discussion of that here: Breaking Down the Joker Tight Ends

 

 

 



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Posted 30 June 2014 - 02:03 PM

A little clarification for readers...

 

The article refers to Olsen as a "move' tight end.  A "move" tight end is one that can line up all over the field and be a threat.  Other TEs referred to this way are guys like Tony Gonzalez, Jimmy Graham and Aaron Hernandez.  Not that different from a primarily receiving tight end but designated 'move' because they move around in formation.

 

You might also see the term "joker" tight end used for this type, though "joker" is meant more to describe the type of player who's a hybrid tight end/wide receiver.  There's good discussion of that here: Breaking Down the Joker Tight Ends

So how many times did he line up at WR this year. I wonder if he can make the same case that Graham can make which is that he is a WR who plays TE and needs to be paid accordingly.



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Posted 30 June 2014 - 02:08 PM

And one other note of interest...

 

The author's name isn't listed at the top of the article, but his Twitter handle is found at the bottom.

 

For the curious, his name is Greg Gabriel (no relation to Roman Gabriel that I know of) and let's just say he's been at this for a while.  Gabriel spent 30 years working as an NFL scout, his last nine years (2001-2010) as Director of College Scouting for the Chicago Bears.

 

Prior to joining the Bears, Gabriel worked as an area scout from 1985 to 2001 for...the New York Giants.

 

Dave Gettleman joined the Giants in 1998 as a scout.  He became Director of Pro Personnel the following year.

 

So yeah, Gabriel and Gettleman were colleagues from 1998 to 2001.



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Posted 30 June 2014 - 02:10 PM

So how many times did he line up at WR this year. I wonder if he can make the same case that Graham can make which is that he is a WR who plays TE and needs to be paid accordingly.

 

I won't claim to have broken that down, but I'd imagine it was fairly frequent given that Olsen was arguably our best receiver last year.

 

Probably shouldn't come as a surprise in a base Coryell offense, honestly.  Multiple formations are a big part of the attack.
 



#10 Captain Morgan

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Posted 30 June 2014 - 02:13 PM

now see, was that so hard??



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Posted 30 June 2014 - 02:22 PM

Rare



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Posted 30 June 2014 - 02:24 PM

I really don't believe we looked better on paper last season than this season. I just don't get that at all.

LT was absolutely better and cam had a  couple years experience with two WRs he was going to be throwing to. while we think that these WRs we have are going to be more consistent and reliable, it's still very much an unknown. 



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Posted 30 June 2014 - 02:34 PM

Tre Boston from NC State, huh? LOL But otherwise he's actually done research

 

 

 

also said we took Turner in the 2nd.  



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Posted 30 June 2014 - 02:44 PM

LT was absolutely better and cam had a  couple years experience with two WRs he was going to be throwing to. while we think that these WRs we have are going to be more consistent and reliable, it's still very much an unknown. 

 

 Everyone knows the LT situation was better but I honestly don't know how the receivers we have this season don't look better on paper than they did last year. Our  secondary looks better on paper. Our defensive line looks better on paper than it did knowing what we know about our rookies. Our QB looks better on paper than he did. Our running game looks better on paper with a healthy on paper backfield and a stronger on paper interior line with a center not coming back from a season ending injury/surgery. The linebackers also look better on paper knowing Luke really is an all pro and Klein and Blackburn can contribute.We had no idea what we had in the safety position and now on paper we have all kinds of veterans as well as Robert Lester who can contribute. We know that Melvin White is a piece to work with and have another veteran in Cason coming in. On paper we look better to me than we did going into last season.....on paper.

 

On paper....



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Posted 30 June 2014 - 02:48 PM

Everyone knows the LT situation was better but I honestly don't know how the receivers we have this season don't look better on paper than they did last year. Our secondary looks better on paper. Our defensive line looks better on paper than it did knowing what we know about our rookies. Our QB looks better on paper than he did. Our running game looks better on paper with a healthy on paper backfield and a stronger on paper interior line with a center not coming back from a season ending injury/surgery. The linebackers also look better on paper knowing Luke really is an all pro and Klein and Blackburn can contribute.We had no idea what we had in the safety position and now on paper we have all kinds of veterans as well as Robert Lester who can contribute. We know that Melvin White is a piece to work with and have another veteran in Cason coming in. On paper we look better to me than we did going into last season.....on paper.

On paper....


I agree with this. Overall I think we are better on paper this year than last. Hopefully it also translates to the field and we continue our success and finally get that second straight winning season.

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