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#31 Jmac

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 03:07 PM

The problem with your reasoning is that you think Smith would have made a difference at this point. He would not have made enough difference to justify the cap hit and D.G knew this. So he went out and signed players that could provide the same production (probably better at this point) without the money hit.This s called good business tactics.

#32 Stroupe-a-loop

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 03:10 PM

The problem with your reasoning is that you think Smith would have made a difference at this point. He would not have made enough difference to justify the cap hit and D.G knew this. So he went out and signed players that could provide the same production (probably better at this point) without the money hit.This s called good business tactics.


Eh, maybe. I just think Smitty has more left for next season than Avant or Cotchery. I suppose we'll see though. I hope you and the rest of the people on here are right.

#33 hepcat

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 03:32 PM

Reporters are so oblivious.  They just look at what happened in the offseason and go "They're going to struggle because they lost Steve Smith".  It's so fuging dumb to say that because Steve is 35 and obviously declining.  No one shed a tear when Brandon LaDrops was released and as much as I liked Ted Ginn, it's not like he set the world on fire in Carolina.  He had more value as a returner than a receiver honestly.  And Hixon?  He had one catch that mattered and without that no one would have even known he was on the team.

 

But in regards to Kelvin Benjamin, he won't be relied on as much as people think.  His mere presence on the field commands a safety keep an eye on him because of his physical gifts.  When you've got a 6'5 240 receiver with 4.6 speed, you can't leave a 5'10 corner on him alone or else he can get beat with height.  The Saints do it with Jimmy Graham all the time (see Carolina vs New Orleans in 2013 both times).  This will keep defenses from stacking the box and allow the running game to develop.  Doesn't matter if KB can run precise routes his rookie year because that's not what the Panthers will be asking from him.  They're asking him to run fade routes to back the safeties off and block his ass off to open up the run game.  Anything else they get from him will be gravy.  With Tolbert, Olsen, KB and Cam...Carolina will be very hard to stop in the red zone.  

 

These reporters are so misinformed they should just stop writing.  The Panthers have a solid winning formula and unless they get the ridiculous bad luck of 2012 again I fully expect them to contend for a playoff spot.  

 

 

 

 


Edited by hepcat, 06 July 2014 - 03:33 PM.


#34 carolinarolls

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 07:07 PM

What is neat about this situation is that KB has the opportunity to come in and be very helpful to his teammates, very productive by rookie standards, and become immediately popular to the fan base without developing above the curve or even beginning to realize his potential. The situation is perfect. We need a goal line threat and he is one. Should be one almost immediately out of the box. He can catch 5 TDs and draw double coverage on all the others opening up some other opportunities.

This will buy him time and in that time Ricky Proehl will make him the very best receiver we have ever seen in Carolina and one of the premier offensive weapons in the entire league.

I said it when he was drafted. He is going to fill a valuable role immediately AND has the potential to grow leaps and bounds above that in the coming years.

It's a beautiful thing.

#35 sanjay_rajput

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 07:14 PM

I've seen a lot of lofty projections for KB this year on the Huddlez, and those are somewhat silly IMO. If he can get 500-600 yards and 5 TDs, that's a nice rookie year IMO. Many of the best WR in the league today didn't do too much their rookie years, and I'd expect the same from KB and the green light to come on during his 2nd and 3rd seasons. 

 

For perspective, in other Top WRs rookie years...

 

Calvin Johnson - 15 Games, 756 Yards, 4 TDs

AJ Green - 15 Games, 1, 057 Yards, 7 TDs

Dez Bryant - 12 Games, 561 Yards, 6 TDs

Brandon Marshall - 15 Games, 309 Yards, 2 TDs

Alshon Jeffery - 10 Games, 367 Yards, 3 TDs

Roddy White - 16 Games, 446 Yards, 3 TDs

Julio Jones - 13 Games, 959 Yards, 8 TDs

Demaryius Thomas - 10 Games, 283 Yards, 2 TDs

Larry Fitz - 16 Games, 780 Yards, 8 TDs

Andre Johnson - 16 Games, 976 Yards, 4 TDs

 

Just for Panthers sakes, Steve Smiths first 2 years combined - 30 Games, 1,026 Yards, 3 TDs. 

 

6 of the 11 mentioned went above 500 yards their 1st year. Many of which were drafted higher and had lofty projections. 4 of the 11 had 5 TDs or more. Fans are obviously thrilled about KB's potential...but temper the expectations for awhile is all I'm saying. 

 

I expect KB  to be like Keenan Allen who had 1,046yds  for a rookie, but with more TD's. Our run game is going to be much better and along with the use of 2 TE set will open things up for KB than people are expecting. 



#36 panthers123

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 07:45 PM

Smitty would have been our best receiver this year. Cutting him makes us worse and that seems counter productive when we were a top 3 team in the NFC last year. It's just a question of whether the long term savings make up enough ground to justify surrounding your young quarterback with bargain bin wideouts and a rookie during what could be a playoff year.

 

Dude saying he is our best WR means very little. We had a pile of poo at WR last year. All the guys have left and became WR3/4 for other teams. Even hinting that Smith was the reason we were a top 3 team in the NFC is crazy. The man's best game was 69 yards last season in the reg season. That is very very sad for a number 1 WR. 



#37 Billy Love

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 07:48 PM

Smitty would have been our best receiver this year. Cutting him makes us worse and that seems counter productive when we were a top 3 team in the NFC last year. It's just a question of whether the long term savings make up enough ground to justify surrounding your young quarterback with bargain bin wideouts and a rookie during what could be a playoff year.


Steve smith wasn't even our best receiver last year. His production from last year will not be difficult to replaced, or improved upon

#38 pantherclaw

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 08:12 PM

I don't expect more than 500-600 yards.

Olsen will once again, be our leading receiver in catches.

What is do expect is him getting a lot of attention as a rookie.

I expect him to get at least 5 TDs.


What he does for the rest of the offense with him just being on the field, is important.

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 08:14 PM

Is there still heart break going on for Steve Smith?

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 09:08 PM

Dude saying he is our best WR means very little. We had a pile of poo at WR last year. All the guys have left and became WR3/4 for other teams. Even hinting that Smith was the reason we were a top 3 team in the NFC is crazy. The man's best game was 69 yards last season in the reg season. That is very very sad for a number 1 WR.


Steve smith wasn't even our best receiver last year. His production from last year will not be difficult to replaced, or improved upon


You can wave away his production, but his numbers were better than anybodys we brought in. To bring it back around to the original question, I think there is going to be a lack of quality receivers this year, just as last year, so the speed at which Benjamin develops is a big storyline for the team this year.

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 09:22 PM

The Steve Smith hate is disgusting, have some fuging respect.

#42 Rise of The Hive

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 10:38 PM

I don't see that much pressure, just go out and play your role.



#43 L-TownCat

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 10:42 PM

14 work days until camp.


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Posted 06 July 2014 - 10:51 PM

Smitty would have been our best receiver this year. Cutting him makes us worse and that seems counter productive when we were a top 3 team in the NFC last year. It's just a question of whether the long term savings make up enough ground to justify surrounding your young quarterback with bargain bin wideouts and a rookie during what could be a playoff year.


If our best WR would be a 35 year old with 400 yards and 2 TD's, we'd be fuged.

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 11:36 PM

SS#89 being gone from this team, with our current personnel and current situation cap-wise and leadership-wise, is one of the best things that has EVER happened to this franchise.

 

Steve was never going to tutor anyone, much less a rookie, Steve was never going to help the cap out of the goodness of his heart, Steve was never going to catch over 600 yards again, Steve was never going to catch over 8 TD's again, Steve was never going to be Cam's new best buddy off the field (not even I expected him to, but Cam is from Mars and Steve is from Venus), Steve was never going to be over 5'8".

 

I loved the man as if he was my brother...my NFL playing, nationally known and respected brother.  But, even my dumbass self could see he was not worth his current or future salary, current or future headache and that GMan had a vision that doesn't include impending has-beens.

 

Give the fuger a statue in 10 years and a place him in the ROH but for now, he is a Raven.  IDGAF.




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