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#1 Gallagher

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 10:49 AM

So I'm sure one of the firsts things you all, like me, did when we signed new players this offseason was check out their nfl.com player page, to see what kind of numbers guys like Jerricho Cotchery, Jason Avant, Tiquan Underwood, and Ed Dickson put up over their careers. I got to thinking though that one thing these pages didn't show was playoff stats. Given that we'll hopefully be headed back to the playoffs, and that how players play in big games says a lot about them, I was curious to see how our new guys did in the post season. Here's what I found.

 

Jerricho Cotchery

 

2011 Wildcard Steelers @ Broncos L: Rec-1 Yds-31 TDs-1 Lng-31 

 

2010 Wildcard Jets @ Colts W:  Rec-2 Yds-17 TDs-0 Lng-10

 

2010 Divisional Jets @ Chargers W: Rec-3 Yds-25 TDs-0 Lng-15

 

2010 AFCCG Jets @ Steelers L: Rec-5 Yds-33 TDs-1 Lng-14

 

2009 Wildcard Jets @ Bengals W: Rec-6 Yds-67 TDs-0 Lng-18

 

2009 Divisional Jets @ Chargers W: Rec-3 Yds-25 Tds-0 Lng-15

 

2009 AFCCG Jets @ Colts L: Rec-5 Yds-102 TDs-0 Lng-45

 

2006 Wildcard Jets @ Patriots L: Rec-4 Yds-100 TDs-1 Lng-77 Rushing Att-2 Yds-17 (w/ Pennington)

 

Jason Avant

 

2013 Wildcard Saints @ Eagles L: Rec-5 Yds-21 TDs-0 Lng-6 (w/ Foles)

 

2010 Wildcard Packers @ Eagles L: Rec-7 Yds-93 TDs-1 Lng-24 (w/ Vick)

 

2009 Wildcard Eagles @ Cowboys L: Rec-2 Yds-32 TDs-0 Lng-20 (w/ McNabb)

 

2008 Wildcard Eagles @ Vikings W:  Rec-5 Yds-47 TDs-0 Lng-14

 

2008 Divisional Eagles @ Giants W: Rec-4 Yds-43 TDs-0 Lng-21

 

2008 NFCCG Eagles @ Cardinals L: Rec-2 Yds-23 TDs-0 Lng-14

 

Tiquan Underwood

 

Was on the Pats for their 2011 playoff run. Didn't catch a pass in the divisional or AFCC games. Was famously cut the day day before the Superbowl, apparently so the Giants couldn't sign him for playbook info. Neither the Jags nor the Bucs made the playoffs while he was there.

 

Ed Dickson

 

2012 Wildcard Colts @ Ravens W: Rec-1 Yds-24 TDs-0 Lng-24

 

2012 Divisional Ravens @ Broncos W:  Rec-3 Yds-29 TDs-0 Lng-14

 

2012 AFCCG Ravens @ Patriots W: Rec-0

 

2012 Superbowl Ravens vs 49ers W: Rec-2 Yds-37 TDs-0 Lng-23

 

2011 Divisional Texans @ Ravens W: Rec-1 Yds-14 TDs-0 Lng-14

 

2011 AFCCG Ravens @ Patriots L: Rec-2 Yds-23 TDs-0 Lng-16

 

2010 Wildcard Ravens @ Chiefs W: Rec-1 Yds-2 TDs-0 Lng-2

 

2010 Divisonal Ravens @ Steelers L: Rec-0

 

 

Some thoughts:

 

  • Cotchery looked like a #1 6-7 years ago with Pennington. Struggled as part of an anemic offense with Sanchez in 2009 and 2010. Stat line against the Broncos reaffirms that he can be a red zone target for us. 
  • Just from this snapshot you can see why Avant wasn't happy in Chip Kelly's system. Five catches for 21 yards and a long of 6 seems like he was under used when previous years' playoff performances show that he can catch balls further down the field. Biggest thing that stands out from these stats is just how consistent Avant has been, even in the playoffs
  • Ed Dickson's playoff numbers look acceptable if unexciting for a TE2. Kind of worrisome how he disappeared for a few games, but that could be that he wasn't targeted or didn't take advantage of the targets he got. Of note is that his best playoff game was the biggest in the Super Bowl. Still rooting for B Williams to beat him out, but either way I hope we use more two TE sets this season.

So people can bitch about our WR core all they want, but these numbers show that our new skill position players (save Tiquan who hasn't had the opportunity) have gotten it done in postseason over the years. Hell, even our rookie, KB played and excelled in the National Championship game. All in all, between Benjamin, Olsen, and solid role players and possession receivers around them, I think we're set up not only to get to the playoffs again, but win games in them. 



#2 King Schit

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 10:56 AM

I'm not an over-reactor to stats like these. But I must admit that they are underwhelming.

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 11:05 AM

Avant kills it in the playoffs.

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 11:13 AM

Can we get Brandon LaFail's?

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 11:17 AM

Can we get Brandon LaFail's?

 

Four catches for 34 yards with a long of 13, in the San Fran game. Also one rush for 6 yards. Avant or Cotchery should easily be able to replace numbers like that. 

 

More troubling though is that Ginn went over 100 yards in that game, and in a lot of spots looked like our best receiver late last season. I hope Underwood is able to replicate what Ginn brought.



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Posted 11 July 2014 - 01:37 PM

Four catches for 34 yards with a long of 13, in the San Fran game. Also one rush for 6 yards. Avant or Cotchery should easily be able to replace numbers like that.

More troubling though is that Ginn went over 100 yards in that game, and in a lot of spots looked like our best receiver late last season. I hope Underwood is able to replicate what Ginn brought.


Over 50 of Ginn's yards were on our last possession in garbage time.

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 01:58 PM

Dickson is a solid blocking tight end though. :D

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#8 run1stdownrun2nddown

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 02:54 PM

Four catches for 34 yards with a long of 13, in the San Fran game. Also one rush for 6 yards. Avant or Cotchery should easily be able to replace numbers like that. 

 

More troubling though is that Ginn went over 100 yards in that game, and in a lot of spots looked like our best receiver late last season. I hope Underwood is able to replicate what Ginn brought.

 

If you are GM of a team and Ted Ginn looks to be your best receiver, I'd say that's about as good a sign as any it's time for some changes :)



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Posted 11 July 2014 - 07:35 PM

If you are GM of a team and Ted Ginn looks to be your best receiver, I'd say that's about as good a sign as any it's time for some changes :)

 

I wanted the Panthers to keep Ginn.  Thought he fit in well as the #3 or 4 receiver.  He was a valuable asset in the return game too.  I hope Underwood makes me eat my words though.


Edited by hepcat, 11 July 2014 - 07:36 PM.


#10 Khaki Lackey

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 08:47 PM

I wanted the Panthers to keep Ginn. Thought he fit in well as the #3 or 4 receiver. He was a valuable asset in the return game too. I hope Underwood makes me eat my words though.

I personally thought Ginn was a little overrated around here, even as a returner. Yeah, compared to AE, he was a baller....


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