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#346 GOOGLE RON PAUL

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 01:22 AM

nothing says "capable of reasoning" like completely writing off economics, anthropology, and psychology, among other sciences, as "hypothesizing in theories," an argument that could only have been pulled directly from your ass because it doesn't appear to exist anywhere on the internet



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 01:23 AM

ps.  i've known people way more intelligent than you.   one of them is doing HIV research at northwestern university after getting her bachelors in virology at 20 years old.

 

you know.   something useful.



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 01:23 AM

lol you go to school for 8 years to figure out what it means to be human and you still don't know

 

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 01:24 AM

nothing says "I can't do anything" like working for an NPO



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 01:25 AM

if you had to walk a mile in philly's shoes, you'd kill yourself

 

if i had to walk a mile in your shoes, i guess i'd be about a mile from your parents' house when it was all said and done



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 01:27 AM

thanks for displaying your reasoning skills



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 01:28 AM

if everything you believe about me is true, then you should seriously re-evaluate yourself 



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 01:29 AM

nothing says "I can't do anything" like working for an NPO

 

what about touting your friend's accomplishments in the absence of your own?



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 01:30 AM

i don't brag on myself.   just saying i know legitimate intelligence, and not some faux regurgitation



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 01:32 AM

i don't brag on myself.   just saying i know legitimate intelligence, and not some faux regurgitation

 

yet you never seem to grace us with your "legitimate intelligence"

 

"hypothesizing in theories": something intelligent ppl say apparently



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 01:32 AM

hey phillyb this is why i called you an apologist. this is pretty much the best the right can muster around here, outside of like ecu88's posts which are the product of years of study (this is good) in an unfortunately insane school of economics (this is bad). why is it such a bad thing to just call this moron "a moron" and move on?

 

as something of a causal determinist and a cautious postmodernist i'm leery of denotations that do not discriminate between person and opinion (very smart people can have very stupid opinions due to the fluidity of relative logics) and besides that i'm 99% sure he's trolling you.

 

that said, anti-intellectualism is endemic to american culture. opposition to that there fancy learnin by a buncha pencil-pushin punks that just wanna be all smarter than everbody else but have no common sense is a uniquely american phenomenon and stems from a number of sociological factors rising over the last half century or so. cultural attitudes towards learning in other western nations and, say, japan, is quite different: aspiring towards understanding complex ideas is seen as a positive thing, and using them there big words is not taken to mean that you're just trying to be smarter than everbody but that you've acknowledged that we live in a complex world and taken it upon yourself to explore in-depth the complexities of a field or problem, along with the language that surrounds those attempts.

 

there really is no better case in point than a discussion of structure versus agency. this is an admittedly difficult topic (i myself struggle to come to a complete understanding of it) but has resounding effects in the human sciences, and efforts to explore it matriculate down to very important, very effective real-world results in fields like psychology and sociology and anthropology, all of which directly affect public policy, holistic health, interpersonal and global communications, etc. but rather than say "hey i don't quite get this, i now desire to come to an understanding of it to broaden my perspectives and become a more well-rounded human being" we get "haw! haw! big words! yall could toss salads with them words! yall could build a bridge to the moon with them words! haw haw education is Liberal Lie #3"

 

attitudes like this are engrained in national psyches and perpetuated cyclicly. but it's not good enough to call progenitors of these ideas morons and leave it at that. changing agents is easier than changing entire social structure, and if you change enough agents anyway you watch the structure improve before your very eyes.

 

but i guess that leaves us back where we started a dozen pages ago… lol



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 01:32 AM

its the fuging internet you douchebag.  do you really think i'd waste my time and energy typing out 5 paragraph dissertations on why you're retarded?

 

no.  you're stupid.  the end.



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 01:34 AM

as something of a causal determinist and a cautious postmodernist i'm leery of denotations that do not discriminate between person and opinion (very smart people can have very stupid opinions due to the fluidity of relative logics) and besides that i'm 99% sure he's trolling you.

 

that said, anti-intellectualism is endemic to american culture. opposition to that there fancy learnin by a buncha pencil-pushin punks that just wanna be all smarter than everbody else but have no common sense is a uniquely american phenomenon and stems from a number of sociological factors rising over the last half century or so. cultural attitudes towards learning in other western nations and, say, japan, is quite different: aspiring towards understanding complex ideas is seen as a positive thing, and using them there big words is not taken to mean that you're just trying to be smarter than everbody but that you've acknowledged that we live in a complex world and taken it upon yourself to explore in-depth the complexities of a field or problem, along with the language that surrounds those attempts.

 

there really is no better case in point than a discussion of structure versus agency. this is an admittedly difficult topic (i myself struggle to come to a complete understanding of it) but has resounding effects in the human sciences, and efforts to explore it matriculate down to very important, very effective real-world results in fields like psychology and sociology and anthropology, all of which directly affect public policy, holistic health, interpersonal and global communications, etc. but rather than say "hey i don't quite get this, i now desire to come to an understanding of it to broaden my perspectives and become a more well-rounded human being" we get "haw! haw! big words! yall could toss salads with them words! yall could build a bridge to the moon with them words! haw haw education is Liberal Lie #3"

 

attitudes like this are engrained in national psyches and perpetuated cyclicly. but it's not good enough to call progenitors of these ideas morons and leave it at that. changing agents is easier than changing entire social structure, and if you change enough agents anyway you watch the structure improve before your very eyes.

 

but i guess that leaves us back where we started a dozen pages ago… lol

 

you're painting with some awful broad brushes yourself there



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 01:43 AM

you're painting with some awful broad brushes yourself there

 

i'm not saying everyone is anti-intellectual, but it's woven inextricably through our culture. hell look at this thread. pstall literally couldn't stop himself from posting the exact same thing six times to highlight just how dumb and stupid it was to be discussing these big and long words (though i'm pretty sure he was just trying to get attention) and then you've got a cadre of other posts following it in a similar tone.

 

a whole lot of people do not take kindly to discussion that invoke words they don't understand, and rather than rising up and seeking an understanding of those words (through seeking an understanding of the topics they represent) we as americans are hardwired to do the opposite: just drag them down and belittle them as stupid abstractions.

 

having admittedly not done an iota of research to back this up, i hypothesize that you could draw a causal relationship between this attitude and our plunging national rankings in educational categories.



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Posted 23 July 2014 - 01:46 AM

as something of a causal determinist and a cautious postmodernist i'm leery of denotations that do not discriminate between person and opinion (very smart people can have very stupid opinions due to the fluidity of relative logics) and besides that i'm 99% sure he's trolling you.

 

that said, anti-intellectualism is endemic to american culture. opposition to that there fancy learnin by a buncha pencil-pushin punks that just wanna be all smarter than everbody else but have no common sense is a uniquely american phenomenon and stems from a number of sociological factors rising over the last half century or so. cultural attitudes towards learning in other western nations and, say, japan, is quite different: aspiring towards understanding complex ideas is seen as a positive thing, and using them there big words is not taken to mean that you're just trying to be smarter than everbody but that you've acknowledged that we live in a complex world and taken it upon yourself to explore in-depth the complexities of a field or problem, along with the language that surrounds those attempts.

 

there really is no better case in point than a discussion of structure versus agency. this is an admittedly difficult topic (i myself struggle to come to a complete understanding of it) but has resounding effects in the human sciences, and efforts to explore it matriculate down to very important, very effective real-world results in fields like psychology and sociology and anthropology, all of which directly affect public policy, holistic health, interpersonal and global communications, etc. but rather than say "hey i don't quite get this, i now desire to come to an understanding of it to broaden my perspectives and become a more well-rounded human being" we get "haw! haw! big words! yall could toss salads with them words! yall could build a bridge to the moon with them words! haw haw education is Liberal Lie #3"

 

attitudes like this are engrained in national psyches and perpetuated cyclicly. but it's not good enough to call progenitors of these ideas morons and leave it at that. changing agents is easier than changing entire social structure, and if you change enough agents anyway you watch the structure improve before your very eyes.

 

but i guess that leaves us back where we started a dozen pages ago… lol

 

where did i go wrong and where did i go right with this agent? obviously calling him a moron doesn't really fit your method but aside from that i did give him the opportunity to explain himself. trolling or not, those posts do speak to his beliefs. that social science can best be described as "(dealing) in fabricated ideas, abstract concepts that have no application to the real world" is an incredibly bold position to take. how do you even begin to respond to this, particularly when that person is quick to pull the "it's the internet idiot im not going to explain myself retard" and slink away? do you believe that this level of anti-intellectualism is i guess solvable*?

 

 

*on the individual level


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