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#11 nosuchthingasapanther

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 09:01 PM

Might have been able to improve that secondary quite a bit with that $13M though.  Or how about the OL?  Or the WR corps?
 
I just don't see the end game of franchising Hardy if he's not in the long-term plans.


continuity can be just as or even more effective than throwing money at outside big names to fix holes.

based on what the team is trying to do overall, it makes sense...even if we as fans don't agree with it.

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 09:09 PM

continuity can be just as or even more effective than throwing money at outside big names to fix holes.

based on what the team is trying to do overall, it makes sense...even if we as fans don't agree with it.

 

If we have another winning season and playoff berth, then I'll say it was worth it.  If history repeats itself and we fail to have our first consecutive winning seasons, then I'll still be saying that Hardy tag was a big reason as to why.  I was onboard with the Hardy signing when I thought it was just buying us time to negotiate a long-term deal.  Then again, maybe that was our plan and that got changed by Hardy's little stunt.  It's easy to say that had no impact, but we can't know that for sure.  We certainly were trying to negotiate long-term prior to tagging him, so I'm not buying this report.



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Posted 14 July 2014 - 09:16 PM

Damn I love what Hardy brings to our defense. He was going to be my next jersey purchase. Guess I'll have to wait.



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Posted 14 July 2014 - 09:27 PM

Meh, the franchise tag keeps him hungry for a big payday next season, and gives him incentive to play hard. Let some other team throw big money at him next season and watch him implode after it goes to his head. ( I. e. the raiders)

You don't give big long term contracts to guys like hardy, it's simply not worth the risk in a conservative business.

Still going to love watching him put up big sack numbers this season though!

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 09:27 PM

If no long term deal is done, the tag on Hardy will look absolutely dumb. That would be the first bad move by Gettleman. Could've let Hardy walk and used the money to shore up our other weaknesses on the team.

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 09:31 PM

I'm not gonna worry about it. For once we have a GM that knows what he's doing.


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Posted 14 July 2014 - 09:32 PM

If no long term deal is done, the tag on Hardy will look absolutely dumb. That would be the first bad move by Gettleman. Could've let Hardy walk and used the money to shore up our other weaknesses on the team.

 

Not really. We kept our strength a strength. If we're putting our chips on Ealy, then he needs at least a year to develop into a starter.



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Posted 14 July 2014 - 09:34 PM

Not really. We kept our strength a strength. If we're putting our chips on Ealy, then he needs at least a year to develop into a starter.


Keep our strengths and strength. Hmm sounds like Hurney and our RBs. Sure you can do that, but you also leave all of your weaknesses weak. We sure could've helped our weaknesses with 13 mil.

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 09:38 PM

Keep our strengths and strength. Hmm sounds like Hurney and our RBs. Sure you can do that, but you also leave all of your weaknesses weak. We sure could've helped our weaknesses with 13 mil.

 

Difference here is that Hurney grossly overpaid for our RBs (who then suffered from a crappy OL, poo coaching and injuries). Gettleman simply tagged an elite DE to keep the core together and to give Ealy time to adjust.

 

I don't see your point at all.



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Posted 14 July 2014 - 09:39 PM

If no long term deal is done, the tag on Hardy will look absolutely dumb. That would be the first bad move by Gettleman. Could've let Hardy walk and used the money to shore up our other weaknesses on the team.

 

Exactly.  I honestly think the plan was to sign him long-term and that got nixed after this latest stunt.  If that's what happened, then I understand.  But this whole idea of him never being part of the long-term plan?  I'm not buying it at all.  We know that the Panthers were in long-term negotiations with Hardy prior to using the franchise tag on him and there were reports that those negotiations were ongoing after the tag.  Wonder what could've changed those plans?

 

Here's a report of negotiations prior to the tag:

http://www.nfl.com/n...ngterm-contract

 

Here's a report of hinting at ongoing negotiations after the tag and only two weeks before his arrest:

Gettleman believes odds of re-signing Greg Hardy 2 long-term deal are better now that 2014 FA market has settled & future NFL cap $$ clearer

 

It just seems like the Panthers are trying to save face here and are actually making themselves look worse for it.  Openly saying you blew your cap space on franchising a young DE knowing he wasn't a part of your future plans makes pretty much everyone scratch their heads.  Saying that the arrest changed those plans and now we're taking a wait and see approach makes a ton of sense.




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