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My logic of innocent people shouldn't be executed? I'm quite the radical

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your logic was that vehicular manslaughter deserved the death penalty. of course innocent people shouldn't be executed but that doesn't change the punishment fitting the crime at all.

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Which statement is wrong exactly?

 

Please cite the exact statement and provide reasoning.

 

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the one I already mentioned. the one I commented on with quotes. The one awesomeness correctly illustrated as he answered the quote also.Now you can ammend what you said but as it stands right now he was correct in his reply.

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- Innocent people shouldn't be put to death

 

- Murderers deserve to be put to death

 

You can accomplish both things, you guys.

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So some overzealous prosecuter in a murder case who pushes for the death penalty in order to pad his resume, using lab results completed with little to no oversight, and preys on the emotions of the victims' families to convince a jury to kill a person....

....is the same thing as......


.... a fuging plane crash

 

 

 

In the context in which we phrased his argument, yes.

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- Innocent people shouldn't be put to death

 

- Murderers deserve to be put to death

 

You can accomplish both things, you guys.

exactly.

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- Innocent people shouldn't be put to death

 

who here holds this position? between this thread and the israel-palestine thread you'll find that quite a few people are in favor of policies which directly result in the deaths of innocent people (even children, provided we get to kill the guilty in the process)

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So what is your solution? No death penalty? Just let them get AIDS in prison huh? K

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So what is your solution? No death penalty? Just let them get AIDS in prison huh? K

 

AIDS or capital punishment: literally the only two options

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AIDS or capital punishment: literally the only two options

 

What is this magical solution that eludes us?

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What is this magical solution that eludes us?

 

don't kill innocent people. actually just don't kill people. reform and restructure the prison system, placing heavy emphasis on rehabilitation. protect inmates from rape. stop treating rape as the punchline to a joke. provide inmates access to quality healthcare. test inmates for HIV at admission, while in custody, and upon release. acknowledge that, while the prison population may suffer from a higher rate of HIV than the general population, the state's treatment of a murderer is by no means limited to death or AIDS.

 

in what universe is an alternative to killing people or infecting people with AIDS a "magical solution that eludes us"? we haven't completely handed the prison population over to the private sector.

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Ignorance is abundant here

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The thread is not about the prison system, although that is a discussion that would likely deserve a thread of its own.

 

The thread is regarding the death penalty and the best/most effective/humane way to carry out executions. And I've come up with a solution which will also stir some new debates within the Huddle, I'm sure.

 

First of all, since the death penalty is legislated at the state level, why not allow each state to hold several options when it comes to methods of execution? For example, the death penalty is obviously a part of Arizona law; so why can't Arizona include several death penalty options, examples as the guillotine, firing squad, lethal injection and the electric chair. Then, when the death penalty is arrived at by a jury, the convicted is then given some time during the course of the appeals process, to select his own method of execution. 

 

In cases where the convicted is considered to be of diminished capacity or is otherwise not mentally capable of making such a decision, a third party (neither the state nor the convicted) conservator of the convicted will make the decision.

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