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#1 KendrickPanther

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 12:22 AM

I apologize if this has already been posted but I do not see anything. Cam talked the NFL Radio today to try and repair any damage from his Marty Hurney interview. The big news was that he didn't want to learn so many plays coming out of Auburn and Chud overwhelmed him. There has been many spins put on it, some of them pretty scathing at the national level. 
 
Here is his response.
 
http://blackandbluer...rob-chudzinski/
 
https://soundcloud.c...-rob-chudzinski
 
  
“Everyone knows (when I) was coming from Auburn, it was a one hand signal (offense), and I was gone. When I came here it was a culture shock"
 
“There were things that were thrown at me that I never would have even imagined. The whole college system was somewhat training wheels and whatnot and without the appreciation for me with having coach Chud around, I would not have had the season that I did have.

“I’m very appreciative of that man – him as well as coach (Mike) Shula – believing in me from day one. The way I read the article; it was not portrayed that way. I just wanted to say that if it wasn’t for coach Chud believing in me, first off I wouldn’t have believed in myself.”
 
 
Bill Voth's words.

Wednesday night, during an interview on Sirius XM NFL Radio Newton clarified his comments, saying they “came off wrong.”

It’s unclear if Newton was referring to our post when he referenced “the article,” but we believe we portrayed his comments on Chudzinski and his first two seasons fairly.

 

 
 
In the interview Cam talks about sometimes when he reads the way his words are portrayed he feels "cheated" some will run with that too I'm sure. This is like Peter King all over again for him. 
 
I have a few problems with this. It starts with the way the media is conducted. Now that everyone has instant access to these interviews, anyone can put a spin on it. This means the person who conducted the interview, the person who looked Cam in the eyes and asked the questions, has no control over the narrative. Dozens or even hundreds of people in the media can now take those quotes and compete with each other for web site hits. I don't need to tell you what kind of headlines generate the most "buzz". 
 
The second problem is Cam himself. Cam does not always spell it out. He says things and expects people to be on the same page as him so he doesn't complete the thought. Here is an example.
 
Cam's quote: "it was kind of force-feeding a kid with carrots."
 
What Cam did is make an analogy how a person in a position of authority will force a child to eat carrots. Kids do not enjoy carrots but they are good for children because they are healthy.

 

But Cam didn't explain his analogy and left it open to interpretation. This is not Cam's first analogy. He's called himself a lion on a safari. He compared his rookie season to collard greens rather than instant grits.

 

So occasionally Cam says things that can be quoted without context and turn into a story to fill the news cycle. Peter King summed it up pretty well:

 

 

 

And I figured I wouldn’t be the only one he said that line to. I just figured if I didn’t use it, and fast, one of the next three interviewers would hear it and use it, somewhere. And so I threw it on Twitter,

 

 

I hate this for Cam because he gets ripped for not spending time with local media. He's rarely comes on WFNZ over the years. But he gets in a situation where maybe he feels safe talking to a former co worker on a local station but the quotes go national in minutes and now he has to clean up a mess rather than rest and study for his next practice.

 

And to be fair to ESPN 730 they tried to give him a chance to clarify his comments but Cam didn't really take it because in the moment he felt his comments were clear.


Edited by KendrickPanther, 07 August 2014 - 01:10 AM.


#2 teeray

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 12:37 AM

I thought it was pretty obvious to anyone who listened that he wasn't slamming Chud. Cam can't win smh

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 12:37 AM

this isn't just a cam thing.

 

tons of athletes talking about former coaches get spun this way. imo



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Posted 07 August 2014 - 12:39 AM

Did he call him Ron?

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 12:40 AM

The media will spin anything you say to fit their narrative.  You can take partial quotes and twist them anyway you want.



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Posted 07 August 2014 - 12:42 AM

I bet gantt and PFT won't report this clarification LOL. They know just what they are doing when they mis-quote Cam. 



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Posted 07 August 2014 - 12:52 AM

This is why Cam tends to stay away from the media. They continue to try to bring this man down by twisting his words around to make it sound like he is a bad guy and it is pissing me off. Writers just cannot accept the fact that Cam isn't a bust like they all predicted.



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Posted 07 August 2014 - 01:07 AM

Exactly, cause the media is going to paint the story they want no matter what.  Cam was a better QB than Manziel coming out of college.  They are acting like Manziel should be the starting QB in Cleveland, but acted like Carolina made a mistake with Cam until we went to the playoffs last year.  I wouldn't deal with them outside of my contractual obligations.



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Posted 07 August 2014 - 01:13 AM

pretty sure chudz doesn't freak out over comments he hears secondhand



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Posted 07 August 2014 - 01:15 AM

Exactly, cause the media is going to paint the story they want no matter what.  Cam was a better QB than Manziel coming out of college.  They are acting like Manziel should be the starting QB in Cleveland, but acted like Carolina made a mistake with Cam until we went to the playoffs last year.  I wouldn't deal with them outside of my contractual obligations.

 

Cam should take the Belichick route where he answers every question with the most boring and simple answers ever.
 



#11 KendrickPanther

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 01:17 AM

The Manziel issue has nothing to do with this topic but since it's been brought up. All of the media admits Manziel is immature but they don't go negative with it. They glorify his missteps as being a fun loving playboy. I just don't see the same vitriol with Manziel. It's almost like "boys will be boys".



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Posted 07 August 2014 - 01:49 AM

The Manziel issue has nothing to do with this topic but since it's been brought up. All of the media admits Manziel is immature but they don't go negative with it. They glorify his missteps as being a fun loving playboy. I just don't see the same vitriol with Manziel. It's almost like "boys will be boys".

 

There's a key difference between Cam and Manziel heh. 



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Posted 07 August 2014 - 03:20 AM

This is why Cam tends to stay away from the media. They continue to try to bring this man down by twisting his words around to make it sound like he is a bad guy and it is pissing me off. Writers just cannot accept the fact that Cam isn't a bust like they all predicted.

 

The media doesnt really care if Cam is a bust or not. They are just going to report on interesting stories which are going to be bad most of the time. If you watch the news 3 out 4 stories is usually about murder, death, or some other depressing/sad story because that is what draws peoples interest. 

 

Headline - Cam does all the right things and is hard worker. or Cam says he is an entertaining and icon

 

You tell me which ones sells papers, gets more clicks, has espn talking. 



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Posted 07 August 2014 - 03:51 AM

The media is destroying mankind. A highway to the depths

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 04:00 AM

My ADHD, along with my inebriation is kicking in.... But within the first half was Cam wrong. .????? All I read was praise of chud and mike! And if it wasn't for them, he wouldn't be where he was at. I guess I must read further, but I just don't have it in me tonight. Will try again tomorrow, I promise!


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