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#1 Omega Atrocity

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 12:32 PM

Since it is the offseason (and nothing is happening) and pretty much all the moves have been made (Love was finally dealt) make your early predictions for seeding. You can do only the eastern conference if you want, but I am going to do both.

 

Remember: 3 of the top 4 have to be division winners.

 

Eastern Conference:

1. Cleveland (central champs): Signing LeBron instantly vaulted them into the top 3, and the Love deal puts them solidly at number 1. However, they are not a lock for the finals. This team has a lot of question marks defensively and I'm not sure if Irving and Varejao will stay healthy.

Lineup: Irving-Waiters-James-Love-Varejao

 

2. Chicago: I was originally hesitant to put a hemorrhaging (last year) offensive team this high, but Rose has looked very good in his team USA appearances. If he stays healthy I have them at 2. If the injury bug bites him again (and I truly hope it doesn't) I would slide them down to 5 or 6.

Lineup: Rose-Butler-Dunleavy-Gibson-Noah (This is my assumption of their lineup)

 

3. Charlotte (southeast champs): I'm definitely a homer, but I truly see us being the 3rd best team in a somewhat weak eastern conference. If you have us beating out Washington and Miami then we are top 4 by default, and I think we are better than Toronto.

Lineup: Walker-Stephenson-MKG-Williams-Jefferson

 

4.Toronto (atlantic champ): The atlantic conference champion has to go here, and unless you see New York or Brooklyn usurping Toronto, this is their spot. They haven't really improved their roster since last year, but they retained their young core from an impressive run. If DeRozan can become more efficient, they have a chance at being very, very good.

Lineup: Lowry-DeRozan-Ross-Johnson-Valanciunas

 

5. Washington: Their bench is much better than last year, but they traded a contract year Ariza for a very old Paul Pierce who will be forced to guard the wing. This is an underrated problem that no one takes into consideration, as Ariza is an excellent perimeter defender and always took the best wing from the opposing team. However, they are still a good team and will be tough for us to beat this season.

Lineup: Wall-Beal-Pierce-Nene-Gortat

 

6. Miami: The loss of LeBron is very rough. They added Deng and McRoberts, but Chris Bosh is going to have to carry the offense, and after not being a true post player the last several seasons, this will be a very interesting season to watch. They are still solidly in the playoffs.

Lineup: Chalmers-Wade-Deng-McRoberts-Bosh

 

7. New York: The Knicks quietly had a very, very good offseason. Jackson has done a great job thus far, and with Indiana being crippled I have them being in the playoffs, as I see them as better than Brooklyn and Atlanta. I do think the 3 way fight between the teams I have 7-9 will be fun to watch this season.

Lineup: Caulderon-Smith-Anthony-Bargnani-Dalembert

 

8. Atlanta: The Hawks always make the playoffs, and I think they squeeze in this season, edging the Nets at the end of the season. Not much to say about them, they get Horford back, but the only improvement they really made was adding Thabo, who played horrifically last season during the playoffs.

Lineup: Teague-Korver-Carrol-Millsap-Horford

 

9. Brooklyn: Welcome back to the Brook Lopez show. Unless you think an aging Joe Johnson and a meh Deron Williams leads them to the playoffs, Lopez is going to have to show why he is one of the top 2 offensive centers in the league. I think they just miss the playoffs.

Lineup: Williams-Jack-Johnson-Garnett (for 10 games)-Lopez

 

10. Indiana: Without Lance they were still a playoff team. Without George and Lance they lost 75% of an already bad offense, and their best 2 defenders. Who is the first option for this team? West isn't able to carry a team, Hibbert is meh offensively. They fight but miss the playoffs by a decent margin.

Lineup: G. Hill-Stuckey-S. Hill-West-Hibbert

 

11.Detroit: Improved with Van Gundy, but with the current roster they're on a treadmill unless they can dump Smith somehow.

Lineup: Jennings-Meeks-Smith-Monroe-Drummond

 

12. Boston: They had a good offseason, but the roster they have now is good for nothing more than ruining a teams playoff seeding, same as last year.

Lineup: Rondo-Bradley-Green-Sullenger-Olynyk

 

13. Milwaukee: They added Jabari, but they also added Jason Kidd, who is a sub-par coach imo. They will be better, but I don't see them being great with their current roster.

Lineup: Knight-Antetokounmpo-Parker-Ilyasova-Sanders

 

14. Orlando: The most likely candidate for worst offseason moves. They turned their 2 best player (Afflalo, Nelson) into Fournier, Frye, and Ben Gordon. Good luck with that.

Lineup: Payton-Oladipo-Harris-Frye-Vucevic

 

15. Philadelphia: The Sixers turned a horrific season into 2 first round picks that won't play this season. Philly is in for the long haul.

Lineup: MCW-Wroten-Thompson-Young-Noel

 

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Western Conference:

1.Oklahoma City (northwest champs): I feel like the Thunder will come out motivated this season and really look to have a good year. It seems like Brooks changed his style somewhat last season after benching Thabo during the Spurs series.

Lineup: Westbrook-Jackson-Durant-Ibaka-Perkins

 

2. San Antonio (southwest champs): They are the champs. They have exactly the same team as last year, though I don't think they will be quite as hungry. Still, can't put them any lower than here.

Lineup: Parker-Green-Leonard-Duncan-Splitter

 

3. LA Clippers (pacific champs): They didn't reall improve their roster, outside of adding Hawes. But they were a very good team last year, and I see them staying as the 3 seed.

Lineup: Paul-Redick-Barnes-Griffin-Jordan

 

4. Dallas: They improved an aging roster by adding Chandler and Parsons. Tyson Chandler is the key to this team imo. If he returns to the form he had in his first stint in Dallas, they are the 4 seed. If he plays like he did last year in New York, they are an 8 seed, maybe out in the tough west.

Lineup: Nelson-Ellis-Parsons-Nowitzki-Chandler

 

5. Golden State: Pretty much the same team with a new coach, If Curry is injured, or Kerr's system doesn't mesh, they could easily miss the playoffs.

Lineup: Curry-Thompson-Iguodala-Lee-Bogut

 

6.Memphis: I'm very high on Memphis. Another team that is pretty much the same as last year, but hopefully for them they have Gasol healthy for the entire season.

Lineup: Conley-Lee-Prince-Randolph-Gasol

 

7.Portland: The only thing they added this offseason was Kaman. It takes more than that to stay in the top 5 of the western conference. They should still be a good offensive team, just don't ask them to get any defensive stops.

Lineup: Lillard-Matthews-Batum-Aldridge-Lopez

 

8. Houston: The Rockets managed to get worse this offseason, despite having the cap space to sign a max player. Unless James Harden learns how to play defense I don't think Houston will go very far this season. Their starting 5 is still pretty good, but trading Asik and Lin obliterated their bench.

Lineup: Beverly-Harden-Ariza-Jones-Howard

 

9. Denver: I think Denver makes a good run at the postseason this year. They were a pretty good team last year, they could just never stay healthy. If they manage to stay healthy they could sneak their way into this.

Lineup: Lawson-Afflalo-Gallinari-Faried-McGee

 

10. Pheonix: I'm still not convinced last season wasn't a fluke. They got somewhat better, but the Bledsoe situation still isn't resolved, and I don't trust the Suns very much. They should still win upwards of 40 games, but that's only good for 10th in the west.

Lineup: Bledsoe-Dragic-Green-Markieff Morris-Plumlee

 

11. New Orleans: Getting Asik definitely makes them better, but Gordon and Holliday need to play a full season, which I'm not sure if either have ever done.

Lineup: Holliday-Gordon-Evans-Davis-Asik

 

12. Minnesota: Well Love is gone, but they got a nice return for him. If they turn Bennet into Thad Young I will slide them above the Pelicans. For the Wolves to be any better this season they need Wiggins and LaVine to develop very quickly.

Lineup: Rubio-Martin-Wiggins-Bennet-Pekovic

 

13. Sacramento: Poor, poor Kings. I was watching one of their old games from the 2003 season when they were good about a week ago. Maybe eventually they will be able to get that energy back. But spending 2 straight top 10 picks on the same position isn't going to get it done on the west.

 

14. LA Lakers: Unless Kobe gets a time machine, the Lakers aren't going to be much better imo.

Lineup: Lin-Bryant-Young-Boozer-Hill

 

15. Utah: I have no idea what to say about the Jazz. Besides that they will be bad this season.

Lineup: Burke-Exum-Hayward-Favors-Kanter


Edited by Omega Atrocity, 08 August 2014 - 12:39 PM.


#2 SuperJTheGreat

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 12:37 PM

If Kemba can't step up we will be seed 5



#3 Rise of The Hive

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 10:51 PM

Chicago

Toronto

Washington

Cleveland

Charlotte

New York

Atlanta

Miami



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Posted 08 August 2014 - 11:50 PM

East:
Chicago
Cleveland
Washington
Miami
Charlotte
Atlanta
Toronto
Brooklyn

West:
San Antonio
Oklahoma City
Golden State
Los Angeles Clippers
Dallas
Houston
Denver (okay, I admit it, I just want to go to another playoff game)
Portland

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#5 cbarrier90

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 12:44 AM

 

East:
Chicago
Washington

Toronto

Cleveland

Miami
Charlotte
Atlanta
Brooklyn
 

 

Fixed to account for the division winners (bolded) in the East. Your West had the divisions right.

 

East

 

Cleveland

Washington

Toronto

Chicago

Charlotte

Atlanta

Brooklyn

Miami

 

(1) Cleveland def. (8) Miami

(2) Washington def. (7) Brooklyn

(6) Atlanta def. (3) Toronto

(4) Chicago def. (5) Charlotte

 

(1) Cleveland def. (4) Chicago

(2) Washington def. (6) Atlanta

 

(1) Cleveland def. (2) Washington

 

Cleveland wins the Eastern Conference

 

West

 

San Antonio

Oklahoma City

LA Clippers

Houston

Golden State

Memphis

Dallas

Portland

 

(1) San Antonio def. (8) Portland

(2) Oklahoma City def. (7) Dallas

(3) LA Clippers def. (6) Memphis

(5) Golden State def. (4) Houston

 

(1) San Antonio def. (5) Golden State

(2) Oklahoma City def. (3) LA Clippers

 

(1) San Antonio def. (2) Oklahoma City

 

San Antonio wins the Western Conference

 

(1) San Antonio def. (1) Cleveland

 

San Antonio wins the NBA Championship

 

Not a bad playoff matchup in sight...



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Posted 09 August 2014 - 01:16 AM

Thanks for the fix. For some odd reason (tequila?) I forgot Chicago and Cleveland were in the same division. Still, I thought division winners must be top four, not top three. Would that not make it Chicago, Cleveland, Washington, Toronto? I could be wrong but I thouht it worked that way.

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 02:26 AM

Thanks for the fix. For some odd reason (tequila?) I forgot Chicago and Cleveland were in the same division. Still, I thought division winners must be top four, not top three. Would that not make it Chicago, Cleveland, Washington, Toronto? I could be wrong but I thouht it worked that way.

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There are only three divisions, not four. 

 

You acknowledged CHI and CLE were in the same division but put them in back to back seeds again...


Edited by cbarrier90, 09 August 2014 - 02:30 AM.


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Posted 09 August 2014 - 05:22 AM

There are only three divisions, not four.

You acknowledged CHI and CLE were in the same division but put them in back to back seeds again...

I thought NBA gave all three divisions winners a top four seed but not a top three seed, so if Chicago and Cleveland had the two best records they would be 1-2 with the other two division winners taking 3-4. I could be wrong?

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Edited by Goondal, 09 August 2014 - 03:35 PM.


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Posted 09 August 2014 - 08:08 AM

Chicago

Cleveland

Washington

Toronto

Charlotte

Miami

Indy

Atlanta

 



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Posted 09 August 2014 - 10:17 AM

Charlotte (Southeast)
Chicago (Central)
Cleveland
Toronto (Atlantic)
Atlanta
Washington
Miami
Brooklyn



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Posted 09 August 2014 - 10:22 AM

There are only three divisions, not four. 

 

You acknowledged CHI and CLE were in the same division but put them in back to back seeds again...

I thought NBA gave all three divisions winners a top four seed but not a top three seed, so if Chicago and Cleveland had the two best records they would be 1-2 with the other two division winners taking 3-4. Was I have wrong?

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Goondal is right there. Division winners are guaranteed 4 seed at worst.



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Posted 09 August 2014 - 09:22 PM

Cleveland
Washington
Charlotte
Miami
Chicago
Atlanta
Toronto
New York

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Posted 10 August 2014 - 08:30 AM

Don't doubt the Hawks. W/ Horford back the Spurs lite system we're implementing it wouldn't surprise me if we're a top four seed

 

Now that Lou is gone we have no more selfish players. J/s.



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Posted 10 August 2014 - 09:27 AM

Don't doubt the Hawks. W/ Horford back the Spurs lite system we're implementing it wouldn't surprise me if we're a top four seed

Now that Lou is gone we have no more selfish players. J/s.


It's not like they were world beaters with him in the lineup to begin with. They were 12 games under .500 to end last season and couldn't close out a Pacers team that was falling apart.

Considering where they are headed potentially as a team and organization they had to have one of the more disappointing free agencies in the league. If anything, the addition of horford has fans overrating them. If free agents couldn't buy in to "Spurs South," what does that say?

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Posted 10 August 2014 - 09:32 AM

It's not like they were world beaters with him in the lineup to begin with. They were 12 games under .500 to end last season and couldn't close out a Pacers team that was falling apart.

Considering where they are headed potentially as a team and organization they had to have one of the more disappointing free agencies in the league. If anything, the addition of horford has fans overrating them. If free agents couldn't buy in to "Spurs South," what does that say?

We were the third seed until Al went down.




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