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Fixing the running game a.k.a same story,different year


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#1 Jmac

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 05:31 PM

Okay..only one game but......it was just as lame as ever. Without Cam it's like a one legged man in a ass kicking contest..doesn't work well. So what to do,we shouldn't depend on our QB with a repaired ankle to shoulder the load again. Here's options:
1. Sign the best available tackle we can find after cuts ( two lineman if possible). Our starting line is marginal at best. The backups are subpar to say the least.
2. Lean heavy on two TE sets and utilize a fullback in the running game.If that means keeping Barnidge plus the three TE's then so be it or if not find a legit fullback after cuts....can't run with the little push and non existent holes this oline provides.
3. Barner or Reeves....one is gone.... or Reeves to the practice squad.From what I have seen of Reeves in practice and now game time..he is the stouter runner with more power...Want to see him and Barner battle it out in the next three games....DLo can take one or two snaps and call it a day. If Stewart is fooling us all and actually plays and can stay healthy,then that would be HUGE. As far as Fozzy goes.....who knows.
Bottom line..Our WR and TE Corp is above average (yes, I think they are) and will excel with a dependable running game. I hope
D.G. And R.R are hatching a plan to do what needs to be done and not relying on Cam for our running game...but as a part of a real running game.

Edited by Jmac, 09 August 2014 - 06:02 PM.


#2 Panther53521

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 05:39 PM

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A WHOLE PIE!

I am sorry I dont think Barnidge is gonna make the team this year,



#3 RoaringRiot

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 05:41 PM

Reeves probably won't either.

Edit: Reaves has a shot though.


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Edited by RoaringRiot, 09 August 2014 - 06:01 PM.


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Posted 09 August 2014 - 05:45 PM

I'd be curious who the best available tackle is.

 

One site says it would be this guy

 

http://en.wikipedia....rican_football)

 

Is a Titan cast off better than Chandler or Bell?



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Posted 09 August 2014 - 05:54 PM

I am sorry I dont think Barnidge is gonna make the team this year,

 

i for one don't even notice barnidge on this team



#6 Dollar Store Dave

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 05:57 PM

Lmao @ Barnidge.

This forum has officially hit new levels of stupidity.

#7 Dollar Store Dave

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 05:58 PM

I'd be curious who the best available tackle is.

One site says it would be this guy

http://en.wikipedia....rican_football)

Is a Titan cast off better than Chandler or Bell?


The titans will probably rease Michael Roos. He is miles ahead of Bell at LT. Just has a big contract.

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 05:59 PM

The running game will get better once our receivers prove themselves.  Until then, teams will stack the box.



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Posted 09 August 2014 - 06:01 PM

Why we gotta be assholes to one another?


I think the run game will greatly improve with better OL play. I like our interior, I really think they just need more time together. A formidable game plan would be nice, perhaps we see an I.provement in game three.

Just don't talk poo about a RB if he is getting smacked by three different defenders in the backfield. Wtf barner sucks! Yeah just stop folks

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 06:03 PM

I'm pretty sure Ron and Dave took notice of how poor the run-blocking was last night.... have a little faith.



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Posted 09 August 2014 - 06:04 PM

The running game starts on the offensive line. We have a rookie, a guy coming off an ACL tear, a guy who has never played LT in the NFL and a guy who was only played on the OL for one year of his career.

It's going to take some time.

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 06:06 PM

I am sorry I dont think Barnidge is gonna make the team this year,

This just made my night. I remember playing the older Maddens and throwing my controller across the room cause Barny couldn't catch a fuging cold.



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Posted 09 August 2014 - 06:10 PM

The running game will get better once our receivers prove themselves.  Until then, teams will stack the box.

This.

 

This right here will be huge.  2+ years ago defenses stacked the box.  Cam didn't make good reads on which LB's were blitzing and which weren't.  It has gotten light years better despite the OL getting worse.

 

The OL needs to gel and the Panthers need to run the ball more often in 2014 then in years past.  This will be the only way they will succeed pass blocking.  There is a great article around somewhere that talks about OL.  The OL always get beat pass blocking and only have an advantage run blocking.  That is when they can wear down the defense - no tall task today with the high rotations used on the front 3 or 4.  I would like to see the stat, how many 3rd downs were converted by run and how many by pass in 2013 by the Panthers.  I'd like to see if it is any different then most NFL teams.

 

Maybe it is just the OC, though...

 

The big thing now is that Cam is capable of making the reads and playing exceptionally well.  If he has time to take 3 to 4 step drops 30 times a game it is going to make a difference on the W-L column.  But, expecting him to complete a pass to save a series on 3rd and 2 is just ridiculous.  The OL needs to step up and the RB's need to find lanes.



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Posted 09 August 2014 - 06:18 PM

This just made my night. I remember playing the older Maddens and throwing my controller across the room cause Barny couldn't catch a fuging cold.

 

Our TE position was such a black hole I would just say fug it and trade for Greg Olsen, then when we actually got him I fapped for days.



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Posted 09 August 2014 - 06:18 PM

Why we gotta be assholes to one another?


I think the run game will greatly improve with better OL play. I like our interior, I really think they just need more time together. A formidable game plan would be nice, perhaps we see an I.provement in game three.

Just don't talk poo about a RB if he is getting smacked by three different defenders in the backfield. Wtf barner sucks! Yeah just stop folks

 

I've said this many time today already.

 

I think it's going to be like 2011 again. The Panther passing game is going to actually to be way more prominent than many experts, and even fans realize.

 

Why? First of all, the run game sucks. More importantly, the passing game with Benjamin (and what he'll do for the rest of the receivers) is just going to be flat out more reliable than the Panther run game. The Panthers will also be able to play "Ball control offense" through their stock pile of big, strong sure handed receivers and Ends.

 

Once defenders play off the run game to defend the passing game, then the running game will open up. Except for Tolbert, Panther RB's need space, as their not tough or shifty enough to run through crowds. The passing game will help them.
 




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