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#1 Proudiddy

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 08:11 PM

I have a feeling that the guy that ends up handling these duties this year is not currently on the roster. Considering it a win because your returner cleanly caught a kick or punt is like taking your kid to Chuck E. Cheese for passing their grade with all Ds.

Pilares ran into the invisible brick wall at around the 15 repeatedly, as expected, and Barner was getting dropped immediately upon catching punts. I had great hope for Barner when we drafted him, not only as a RB, but also for his return abilities. He has yet to show that explosiveness he displayed in college. I haven't lost hope for Barner, but he's got to step it up.

That being said, I just don't see that explosive/game changing-type player out of the players currently competing for the return duties, and that's pretty disappointing.

A viable return guy should look decisive and as though he is operating at another speed compared to everyone else on the field. It is really even more of a glaring problem as I watch other games and almost every team I have watched thus far, have had a guy that fits that exact description. Just in this Browns/Lions game alone, there are multiple, non-big name guys, that fit that explosive, decisive returner mold.

I feel this issue has to be addressed, otherwise, any wins we have will be in spite of the return game - it's that big of a problem.

#2 ej28405

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 08:28 PM

This is one of the biggest areas I feel we have regressed in. What about Josh Cribbs?


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Posted 09 August 2014 - 08:46 PM

Yes we certainly need a return man. That was my biggest problem with us letting Ginn walk. We don't have a return man currently on the roster. The only issue is; who gets cut if we sign one?



#4 KillerKat

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 08:53 PM

I think if no one steps up, we could sign Cribbs

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 08:54 PM

We don't need a spot for a returner.  Look at the stats below from   NFL Team Kickoff Touchback Percentage Date: 2/2 cal_16.png
Seasons : 2003 | 2004 | 2005 | 2006 | 2007 | 2008 | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | 2013

Rank Team 2013 Last 3 Last 1 Home Away 2012 1 Carolina 77.65% 90.91% 100.00% 81.63% 72.22%

48.05%

 



#6 CatTower

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 08:54 PM

We don't need a spot for a returner.  Look at the stats below from teamrankings dot com/nfl/stat/kickoff-touchback-pct.  Pilares and Barner are both capable of catching kickoffs.  I was actually impressed with Pilares last night.   NFL Team Kickoff Touchback Percentage Date: 2/2 cal_16.png
Seasons : 2003 | 2004 | 2005 | 2006 | 2007 | 2008 | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | 2013

Rank Team 2013 Last 3 Last 1 Home Away 2012 1 Carolina 77.65% 90.91% 100.00% 81.63% 72.22%

48.05%

 



#7 CatTower

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 09:06 PM

Excuse my newness to the board.  The stats above show Carolina took a touchback 77.65% of the time and 90.91% in the last 3 games.  My point is, why bring in a guy to do just that when you already have capable people who know the system.



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Posted 09 August 2014 - 09:12 PM

Excuse my newness to the board. The stats above show Carolina took a touchback 77.65% of the time and 90.91% in the last 3 games. My point is, why bring in a guy to do just that when you already have capable people who know the system.


Kick returner is almost obsolete but punt returning is a different story.

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 09:13 PM

Does anyone know how Cribbs did on returns last year? pff hrade or whatever?

i agree we need a returner.

#10 Proudiddy

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 09:21 PM

Excuse my newness to the board. The stats above show Carolina took a touchback 77.65% of the time and 90.91% in the last 3 games. My point is, why bring in a guy to do just that when you already have capable people who know the system.


Forgive me for not being clear on my concern, as I know the title lists both KR/PR, but my point is, we need someone who is a skilled RETURN man, regardless of whether it is kicks or punts.

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 09:37 PM

Josh Cribbs

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 09:41 PM

This is where Philly Brown can seize his opportunity as Barner makes me miss Armanti on punt returns.

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 09:54 PM

what about Philly Brown and Marcus Lucas? how have they looked on PR/KR duty in camp?



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Posted 09 August 2014 - 10:00 PM

We don't need a spot for a returner.  Look at the stats below from teamrankings dot com/nfl/stat/kickoff-touchback-pct.  Pilares and Barner are both capable of catching kickoffs.  I was actually impressed with Pilares last night.

 

 

People need to go ahead and get over the fact that Pilares is not going to pan out as a receiver and offers nothing as a returner.  I'm just here to enlighten you past your inevitable denial, anger, bargaining, and soon depression so you can finally reach acceptance with grace and style.

 

but seriously, if anything was proven by the stats, it's that they can get Cason, or any number of quality fair catching players, to fair catch the ball and save roster spots.



#15 cbully

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 10:09 PM

yes the MAN is certainly not yet on the roster and we'd be fooling ourselves to think he is... that return game makes me want to throw something every time to ball is caught after a kick. smh... I'd rather webb back there before those we saw last night. smh... we need that ball out to the 30-40 on kickoff every once in a while and 15+ on punt returns is doable. 




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