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#1 Mr. Scot

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Posted 15 August 2014 - 02:41 PM

...will probably start at right tackle.

I'd rather they didn't.

My choice would be to make the guy who doesn't win the position the backup. Sign somebody else to play right tackle.

I don't expect the team to go that route, but I wish they would.

#2 Jeremy Igo

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Posted 15 August 2014 - 02:50 PM

Disagree.

The two best tackles on the team are Bell and Chandler. Bell is a veteran RT and Chandler has had plenty of snaps at RT this off-season.

Garry Williams is a big step down, and signing someone to come in and start immediately having developed zero chemistry with the line is trouble.

That said, I would like them to sign an OT to push the starter into mid season and then let it play out.

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Posted 15 August 2014 - 02:55 PM

we are kind of down a path with chandler and bell... whos available that you would start over these guys?



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Posted 15 August 2014 - 02:55 PM

Disagree.

The two best tackles on the team are Bell and Chandler. Bell is a veteran RT and Chandler has had plenty of snaps at RT this off-season.

Garry Williams is a big step down, and signing someone to come in and start immediately having developed zero chemistry with the line is trouble.

That said, I would like them to sign an OT to push the starter into mid season and then let it play out.


I don't dispute their being the best on the roster right now.

I'm also not of the belief that a quality left tackle will be available via cut or trade.

But I do believe a right tackle that's at least something of an upgrade could be.

If not...

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Posted 15 August 2014 - 02:56 PM

we are kind of down a path with chandler and bell... whos available that you would start over these guys?


Right now? No one.

Come final cuts though, someone might be.

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Posted 15 August 2014 - 02:57 PM

I think that there will be someone better than those two available after cuts. Not saying they're going to be world beaters, obviously, but they would be good enough to beat out Bell/Chandler given a fair shake at it.

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Posted 15 August 2014 - 03:01 PM

I'd be interested in seeing last years cuts and how many tackles were picked up right away into a starting spot. Of course, thats far too much work for me to dig around for.... :)



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Posted 15 August 2014 - 03:01 PM

why don't we give bell and chandler the opportunity to prove they either deserve, or don't deserve their positions before we replace them!



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Posted 15 August 2014 - 03:04 PM

oughta be about fit.  Bell and Chandler are expected as starters.  They should be fit to their strengths, not because one player is better and therefore has to be the LT.  The LT isn't more critical than the overall line playing well.  

 

My concern isn't whether either can be solid pass blockers, I'm waiting to see Chandler run block well from the outside.  Williams is an OK pass pro guy, and hasn't shown that run blocking either. 



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Posted 15 August 2014 - 03:06 PM

If Bell wins the LT job I have a feeling we'll still end up running a lot on his side.



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Posted 15 August 2014 - 03:07 PM

I'd be interested in seeing last years cuts and how many tackles were picked up right away into a starting spot. Of course, thats far too much work for me to dig around for.... :)

 

I'd be interested in seeing how many teams last year had two undrafted free agents penciled in to start at OT going into final cuts.

 

I really, really hope Bell has improved tremendously, but despite however he has performed in camp and in preseason, his past regular season results are probably the best indication of his future performance.  IMO, Chandler is a complete wildcard since we've never seen him play OT in games that count.  However, I'm pulling for the wildcard over the guy who I've seen beaten like an old rug way too often.  Lots of posters complained about Shula constantly drawing up plays that had Cam rolling out to the left last year forcing him to throw across his body, but I think he did that to roll Cam away from the certain pressure that was gonna come from the right.  Bell was a big reason for that.

 

I hope I'm wrong and I'm selling both of these guys way short, but I also hope we sign some better veteran options just in case I'm not.


Edited by LinvilleGorge, 15 August 2014 - 03:09 PM.


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Posted 15 August 2014 - 03:11 PM

I'd be interested in seeing last years cuts and how many tackles were picked up right away into a starting spot. Of course, thats far too much work for me to dig around for.... :)


The only one off hand I remember is tony pashos. He played 12 games at tackle for the raiders. He was cut by the redskins.

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Edited by party_animal, 15 August 2014 - 03:12 PM.


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Posted 15 August 2014 - 03:14 PM

I still am of the belief that Dave misplayed his hand here with the o-line. Not that the cards he had to play were good by any means, but our OTs are a huge gamble.


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Posted 15 August 2014 - 03:19 PM

Prediction for Sunday night.They will keep someone in the back field for Cam for every snap.Don't think they have enough faith in the on going project yet.

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Posted 15 August 2014 - 03:27 PM

I still am of the belief that Dave misplayed his hand here with the o-line. Not that the cards he had to play were good by any means, but our OTs are a huge gamble.


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I'm not sure if we've seen him play his hand yet.  Given what decent OTs were getting last year in the free agency market, we weren't really in a position to acquire one.  Given the way the draft played out and how the rookie OTs have been performing, I'm not sure he misplayed the draft on OT either.  Some will argue that we should've signed Seantrel Henderson, but I think he was probably completely off our board from the get-go.

 

I think it's quite possible that Gettlemen knew a likely upgrade wasn't possible in free agency, wasn't available in the draft, and that we were better off going into camp and free agency letting Bell and Chandler battle it out and then hope to have a decent option fall in our laps after final roster cuts.  I have to think that we would be a very attractive option for a veteran OT looking for a job.  Not like he'd be facing much competition.  Could be a good way to get himself one last payday if he could come in and perform well.

 

As far as how the draft played out, I think we were a couple of picks away from double dipping at WR.  If Cody Latimer had dropped just a few more picks, I think we would've gone WR back to back.


Edited by LinvilleGorge, 15 August 2014 - 03:31 PM.



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