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I contended Deangelo is the 3rd best RB on the team

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I don't know why people think Tolbert can't be an every down back. I think he can. Especially this year at a lighter weight.

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Conditioning. He may have lost weight, but he is still too soft in the middle to carry the ball 20 times a game.

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Deangelo is really bad about fighting through contact. And our scheme/blocking is not good enough to get him in space. Stewart and Tolbert are better fits for us at this time.

But the bigger concern to me is Tolbert at Fullback. He's a crap blocker. He's got short arms and lack of conviction. Go look at the first play of the 2nd half. The Panthers had a nice I formation run drawn up, Tolbert whiffs his block and Stewart bounces outside for a loss. The play was bailed out by a hands to the face penalty but you see that sort of run blocking a ton from Tolbert. I would really like us to get that true Fullback for I formation runs.

Obviously I would prefer if we cut Shula, but as long as he is here, he needs a fullback to run his vanilla offense.

Edit: I should add Deangelo is a crap blocker in pass pro and the running game. If Cam, Tolbert, or a WR runs the ball you can count on Deangelo shying away from contact. It pisses me off, it makes him look like a poor teammate. Brandon Lafell and Steve Smith block harder than Dlo.

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All of this boils down to one thing, Shula sucks.

 

Zod said it when we got him as OC.

 

We've said since we've seen his play calling.

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Conditioning. He may have lost weight, but he is still too soft in the middle to carry the ball 20 times a game.

See San Diego 2010

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All of this boils down to one thing, Shula sucks.

Zod said it when we got him as OC.

We've said since we've seen his play calling.

Williams consistantly going down with any contact isn't a Shula issue.

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I was rewatching the MNF game against the Pats from last season the other night, and we ran that play down in the red zone. For no gain of course. I started cussing the tv and felt my blood pressure rising only before realizing that the game was a year old. It's an automatic reaction.

Yep, and like when we ran it first play after the deep ball to Smitty first drive of the game against the Saints at home last season. Went for a no gain. I swear it's Shula's go to red zone play and I have no freaking idea why

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Williams consistantly going down with any contact isn't a Shula issue.

Poor play design, like wildcats in the red zone, is.

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I don't know why people think Tolbert can't be an every down back. I think he can. Especially this year at a lighter weight.

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I remember Tolbert sucking air last year, plus his running style is not exactly conducive to every down.  He is a big guy.  His production will drop markedly if he is expected to carry the load.  I think that his most efficient use is as a change of pace back.

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Poor play design, like wildcats in the red zone, is.

Again, Williams going down with any contact isn't a Shula or play calling issue. SF, Sea, etc ran a lot of vanilla and predictable poo just like us last year.....DeAngelo wouldn't of worked for them either.

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Fred Jackson has had 1000 yards once in his career, when he was 26-27. He ran for less than 900 yards last season. DWill had a seriously down year last year with two Pro Bowlers on the offensive line (one of the very few NFL teams to have 2 Pro Bowlers out of the 5 on the offensive line). 

 

Fozzy just hasn't had a chance to shine in a game, thus the reason he runs the way he does, with an attitude.

 

And it's not Fozzy versus DWill, like you're trying to make it out. It's a young, hungry RB versus an old (by NFL standards) beat-up RB. I'd take the young, fresh one any day of the week.

Deangelo is better than Fozzy. It's not really close. But sure I would rather have Fozzy if I could get rid of Deangelo's cap space.

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The larger rbs are going to play better than the smaller ones when you have o line issues. The big guys run over people. D will isn't going to run over anyone between the tackles. I beleve He will be fine if we have the starters healthy on the line

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Deangelo is better than Fozzy. It's not really close. But sure I would rather have Fozzy if I could get rid of Deangelo's cap space.

I'm really not so sure about that at this point. fozzy has run through a few tackles this preseason that Williams could not have gone through.

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