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Goondal    2,371

I think Mookie's biggest threat (asdie from Papi from you said, Papi stealing votes) is Houston making the playoffs.  Then it will be Altuve.

Our young talent is absurd.  If they could figure out how to beat crap teams we would be unstoppable.  Luckily we do not face these last place teams in the playoffs.

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Goondal    2,371

First place, twenty-three games remaining.  Now the question is...can we hold it.  Two out of three this weekend would be huge and with the way the Jays are playing we may be getting them at the right time.

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Goondal    2,371

Pretty good weekend we have going on here.  Three straight and a chance to complete the sweep and end the Yankees season tomorrow.  And we finally won a one run game!!!  Now if the boys can figure out how to beat the O's before this week's series we will be set.

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Goondal    2,371

He would definitely not be my choice, but if he and E-Rod are both starting then I suppose the order does not matter.

Not sure if Porcello has ever gone on short rest but my preferred would be to have E-Rod in 3, then Porcello in 4 given his numbers at Fenway.  Price could then go on short rest in Game 5.

Hopefully we light up Tomlin to give Clay a lot of support.

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Goondal    2,371

Heck of a day yesterday.  I love trading prospects for Sale, even if Moncada was included.  In the end, he is only a prospect while Sale is proven.  I honestly feel he is the second best pitcher in baseball.  I am fine with Kopech being a part of the deal too as he was projected as a #3 if all turned out well and has already been suspended for PEDs so there are certainly chances that things do not work out.  Basabe has a lot of potential but he also has a lot of bust potential as he was very early in the development.  Kept Benintendi, Devers, and Groome so still have strong guys in the minors with one obviously expected to spend '17 in the majors after a good audition last season.

I also love the Thornburg acquisition.  He is young and under team control for a few years and coming off a very good season as the Brewers closer. I love having guys that have had closing success in the set-up role should something happen to Kimbrel.  Meanwhile we only gave up Shaw and a few second tier prospects.  Hoping they resign Ziegler (but not thinking it will happen) and then will have Carson Smith returning also, I have high hopes for him.

Like Moreland.  I know they were looking at Alvarez also and while the latter has much more potential he really is boom or bust.  There really is no bust potential with Moreland, he is consitent and we know what we are going to get.  He will be a nice addition to the bottom of the order.

Only downside I see is we are stuck with the fatfuk at 3B.  Devers has an ETA of Spring 2018 so if Pablo still sucks we will not be stuck with him for long and it should not be too expensive for Dombrowski to find something servicable until he is ready.  I suppose it is the one thing I preferred about Alvarez is he could have moved to 3B if needed and Moreland has no time there.

Either way, it is nice to be excited about the moves after being unhappy with the reckless spending the last two offseasons.  

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pantherphan96    2,866

^Agreed. Saw that Pablo has slimmed down some so I'm hoping he can be more effective this year plus we have Holt to fill in as needed. Also like moving Hanley to DH and having a Gold Glove 1B in Moreland. Keeping Betts, Benintendi, and Bradley was a major win as well. 

Moncada and Kopech are great prospects but they are still a long way from being big-league ready. In return we have a top 5 pitcher on a very team friendly contract throughout his prime. 

Think the bullpen should be much better with Kelly, Thornburg, Smith, and Kimbrel as the main guys.

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Goondal    2,371

So, who goes to the pen?

Obviously Sale-Price-Porcello is the big three and I feel like you have to have E-Rod in the rotation.  He is the young guy with all the potential and we cannot afford to stymie his growth by sending him to the pen and jerking him around.  Too many guys have been ruined that way (we ruined Daniel Bard in the opposite way).  Dombrowski wants guys to perform now though so if he falls behind the other two it could be him, I am rooting for him of the three though.

That leaves Wright and Pomeranz.  Giving up such a high prospect for Pomeranz is not something you want to do for a reliever, but at the same time it may be the better option.  He does have experience out there and I am not all the high on a knuckler coming out of the pen (despite Wake closing at one point).

I am not sure if Wright has any options, as he could become that sixth starter that moves between AAA and MLB.

It will be interesting.  I love having this problem much more than the not enough pitching side of things.

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pantherphan96    2,866
On 12/9/2016 at 9:51 PM, Goondal said:

So, who goes to the pen?

Obviously Sale-Price-Porcello is the big three and I feel like you have to have E-Rod in the rotation.  He is the young guy with all the potential and we cannot afford to stymie his growth by sending him to the pen and jerking him around.  Too many guys have been ruined that way (we ruined Daniel Bard in the opposite way).  Dombrowski wants guys to perform now though so if he falls behind the other two it could be him, I am rooting for him of the three though.

That leaves Wright and Pomeranz.  Giving up such a high prospect for Pomeranz is not something you want to do for a reliever, but at the same time it may be the better option.  He does have experience out there and I am not all the high on a knuckler coming out of the pen (despite Wake closing at one point).

I am not sure if Wright has any options, as he could become that sixth starter that moves between AAA and MLB.

It will be interesting.  I love having this problem much more than the not enough pitching side of things.

Wouldn't mind having Wright as the 6th starter and using him exclusively for dome games and clear weather games to mitigate the effect of poor weather on the knuckleball. Think you put E-Rod and Pomeranz as 4/5 and keep shopping Buchholz.

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pantherphan96    2,866
2 hours ago, Hammerin'Cameron1 said:

Buchholz is worth more to keep over anything you'd get in return for him, you never know when he will turn back into Cy Young for a couple weeks or months, or maybe eventually a whole season

exactly why I think they should sell him high before he starts the season with a 5+ ERA and becomes basically worthless again.

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pantherphan96    2,866
4 hours ago, Hammerin'Cameron1 said:

They can't sell him high though that's the thing, if they traded him now they'd get a bucket of bubble gum and a broken bat lol its better value to hold on to him and hope he figures it out

unless he starts off the year unexpectedly strong his value won't be much higher than it is right now. if we could get a prospect or at least get some team to take his whole salary cap hit I'd chalk that up to a W.

E-Rod is too promising to get rid of and unless we are getting Espinoza back I don't want to trade Pomeranz.

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