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I love Derrick Barnett

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Kid has some drool worthy qualities. I really think he's in play at 8. My guess is Fournette and both safeties will be off the board by 8. I really hope Hooker or Adams is there, but truly doubt it.

That's going to leave Gettleman and RR the choice between Barnett, Thomas and Howard at 8.  Any of these three would be great for our team. 

Barnett reminds me a bit of Kearse. The fact that he will be a young 21 when the season starts is pretty incredible. Add another vet on the other side.... whether its Addison or someone else.... I really think Barnett could be a stud very quickly.

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15 hours ago, Soul Rebel said:

Kid has some drool worthy qualities. I really think he's in play at 8. My guess is Fournette and both safeties will be off the board by 8. I really hope Hooker or Adams is there, but truly doubt it.

That's going to leave Gettleman and RR the choice between Barnett, Thomas and Howard at 8.  Any of these three would be great for our team. 

Barnett reminds me a bit of Kearse. The fact that he will be a young 21 when the season starts is pretty incredible. Add another vet on the other side.... whether its Addison or someone else.... I really think Barnett could be a stud very quickly.

Howard, and Thomas are solid bull rusher who can kick in to 3techs.. 

But Barnett has that elite outside pass rushing skill like (Von Miller) that bend around the tackle move where Miller gets low as hell still on his feet and gets around the tackle.. Barnett can do that.. I haven't seen much tape of the other 2 showing that... 

That's why Barnett my 1st choice. 

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In a nightmare scenario Barrett might be the best available...something like:

1)  Cleveland - Garrett

2)  Niners - Lattimore

3)  Bears - Allen

4)  Jax - Thomas

5)  Titans - Adams

6)  Jets - Fornette

7)  Bolts - Hooker

That would SUCK IMO.  If I was the Panthers I would seriously try to move back for someone coming to get a QB.

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2 hours ago, Shocker said:

In a nightmare scenario Barrett might be the best available...something like:

1)  Cleveland - Garrett

2)  Niners - Lattimore

3)  Bears - Allen

4)  Jax - Thomas

5)  Titans - Adams

6)  Jets - Fornette

7)  Bolts - Hooker

That would SUCK IMO.  If I was the Panthers I would seriously try to move back for someone coming to get a QB.

Not only would it not suck, it might be the best thing that could happen.  Only time will tell.

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Every year in college his sack numbers and hits on qb's increased vs the SEC talent..

http://www.sports-reference.com

    Tackles Def Int Fumbles
Year School Conf Class Pos G Solo Ast Tot Loss Sk Int Yds Avg TD PD FR Yds TD FF
Career Tennessee        
*2014 Tennessee SEC FR DE 13 47 26 73 20.5 9.0 0 0   0 0 1     0
*2015 Tennessee SEC SO DE 13 44 25 69 12.5 10.0 0 0   0 1 1     1
2016 Tennessee SEC JR DE 13 40 16 56 19.0 13.0 1 7 7.0 0 5 0     2

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49 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Every year in college his sack numbers and hits on qb's increased vs the SEC talent..

http://www.sports-reference.com

 
    Tackles Def Int Fumbles
Year School Conf Class Pos G Solo Ast Tot Loss Sk Int Yds Avg TD PD FR Yds TD FF
Career Tennessee        
*2014 Tennessee SEC FR DE 13 47 26 73 20.5 9.0 0 0   0 0 1     0
*2015 Tennessee SEC SO DE 13 44 25 69 12.5 10.0 0 0   0 1 1     1
2016 Tennessee SEC JR DE 13 40 16 56 19.0 13.0 1 7 7.0 0 5 0     2

Definately agree his production was amazing, and in the SEC to boot.  Was watching the Bama game and he went right by Robinson and on one play for the sack fumble.  He appeared to be good against the run as well.  

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This is probably the safest pick Gettleman could make in the 1st and probably no one could argue against it even if Adams or Allen were there. There's people that are arguing that he's a more complete pass rusher than Garrett is. I wouldn't be mad with him or S.Thomas.

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On 2/24/2017 at 3:03 PM, Shocker said:

In a nightmare scenario Barrett might be the best available...something like:

1)  Cleveland - Garrett

2)  Niners - Lattimore

3)  Bears - Allen

4)  Jax - Thomas

5)  Titans - Adams

6)  Jets - Fornette

7)  Bolts - Hooker

That would SUCK IMO.  If I was the Panthers I would seriously try to move back for someone coming to get a QB.

There's no way. There's always at least one team drafting high that's going to pick a QB. I wouldn't be suprised if Trubisky and Watson go 1+2 just like Goff and Wentz did last year. Hell some team might get so high on either of the QBs Cleveland already has pick 12 its easy to see them trading out of pick 1 for a kings ransom.

There's always a curveball pick or two in the top picks of the draft too. Like what happened to Tunsil and then Cowboys not picking Bosa, all it takes is one team picking who no one expects them to pick that changes all the subsequent picks.

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On 2/24/2017 at 3:03 PM, Shocker said:

In a nightmare scenario Barrett might be the best available...something like:

1)  Cleveland - Garrett

2)  Niners - Lattimore

3)  Bears - Allen

4)  Jax - Thomas

5)  Titans - Adams

6)  Jets - Fornette

7)  Bolts - Hooker

That would SUCK IMO.  If I was the Panthers I would seriously try to move back for someone coming to get a QB.

These are like the 7 players I like all lined up in a row

 

Why do you do this

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Barnett is intriguing.  He's clearly got great bend / rip around the edge and quickness in short spaces.  Impressive usage of hands.  My two biggest questions based on his highlights - 1) does he have an inside move? (most of his highlights were outside speed moves) and 2) is he explosive enough to win in a similar fashion in the NFL?

Ultimately, I think his athletic testing will determine whether he is worthy of the eighth pick.  Justis Mosqueda has done a ton of great work showing that measures of explosiveness (not the 40) are the best predictor of NFL success at DE.  If he's got the right level of explosiveness, he would solve a huge problem our defense had last year.

The combine will be very important for his draft prospects.

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23 hours ago, Hoenheim said:

There's no way. There's always at least one team drafting high that's going to pick a QB. I wouldn't be suprised if Trubisky and Watson go 1+2 just like Goff and Wentz did last year. Hell some team might get so high on either of the QBs Cleveland already has pick 12 its easy to see them trading out of pick 1 for a kings ransom.

There's always a curveball pick or two in the top picks of the draft too. Like what happened to Tunsil and then Cowboys not picking Bosa, all it takes is one team picking who no one expects them to pick that changes all the subsequent picks.

I love having pick 8 as opposed to 30 (yes, I'd rather have been in the SB again, but season's done). As you said, I wouldn't be mad at Barnett or Thomas. The DEs at the combine will be really interesting. Demarcus Walker is getting completely overlooked and he had more sacks than Barnett the past two seasons. Throw in Garrett, Kpassagnon and a handful of others. Nice year to need DEs. I wouldn't mind a double dip at that spot at all.

One note, Bosa wasn't passed over. One of the early surprises was San Diego going Bosa instead of Ramsey. I think you might be thinking that the Cowboys needed DE pressure so they wouldn't pass over Bosa. We don't know since they didn't get a chance.

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