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panther4life    2,360
27 minutes ago, SCP said:

I'm so bipolar on this roster. One minute I'm like great we've gotten better and the next minute I'm thinking we're still 3/4 in the NFCS.


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Well first of all it's definetly possible to be better and still 3/4 in the NFC south. We were that bad last year and those who didn't see it coming were being blind homers.

Secondly the offseason is the land of eternal hope for every fan base. For us is breaks down like this.

 Homerism vs realism. 

Homerism says the glass is half full and Kalil will finally beast out and that Peppers will have 8+ sacks, Mike Adams will be an upgrade over Harper and Moving Coleman back to FS will return him to pro bowl form.  Munnerlyn is a beast nickel and missing piece to the corner rotation

Realism says- Kalil has largely sucked his whole career, Peppers is 37, Mike Adams is 36, Coleman going to back to 2015 form is plausible but shouldn't be counted as a fact. Did anybody care or sweat it when Munnerlyn left a couple years ago? Is he better now or the same or worse?

If we are better based solely off free agency it's still a short term solution just as 2015 was. 

Bottom line is the offseason is still young and we have more questions than answers at this point. I suspect after day 2 of the draft your bipolar tendency will swing back in the favor of being happy. However we need to see results on the field.

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CPantherKing    2,041

The Panthers finished last in the division with 6 wins while only winning 1 game in the division for a reason.

The Panthers have yet to address the 2 biggest weaknesses that led to their 2016 downfall. They can strengthen the rest of the team all they want, but until they fix the 2 major weaknesses, opposing teams will easily avoid the Panthers strengths and be in every game (if not carrying the lead) going into the 4th quarter.

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Nails    1,164
1 hour ago, panther4life said:

Well first of all it's definetly possible to be better and still 3/4 in the NFC south. We were that bad last year and those who didn't see it coming were being blind homers.

Secondly the offseason is the land of eternal hope for every fan base. For us is breaks down like this.

 Homerism vs realism. 

Homerism says the glass is half full and Kalil will finally beast out and that Peppers will have 8+ sacks, Mike Adams will be an upgrade over Harper and Moving Coleman back to FS will return him to pro bowl form.  Munnerlyn is a beast nickel and missing piece to the corner rotation

Realism says- Kalil has largely sucked his whole career, Peppers is 37, Mike Adams is 36, Coleman going to back to 2015 form is plausible but shouldn't be counted as a fact. Did anybody care or sweat it when Munnerlyn left a couple years ago? Is he better now or the same or worse?

If we are better based solely off free agency it's still a short term solution just as 2015 was. 

Bottom line is the offseason is still young and we have more questions than answers at this point. I suspect after day 2 of the draft your bipolar tendency will swing back in the favor of being happy. However we need to see results on the field.

Again, Cameron Jerrell Newton, a man with one year of major college football starting experience, will be entering year 7 healthy, rested, and motivated.  The average age of Super Bowl winning QBs is 30 and he's inching closer to greatness.  We are improved for these reasons alone.

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TheRed    17,992
5 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

 


Had an experienced LT at the start of the season last year.

 

Should have won it either way you slice it. Kicker might bite us in the ass again this year. It's a definite concern.

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Nails    1,164
Just now, TheRed said:

Should have won it either way you slice it. Kicker might bite us in the ass again this year. It's a definite concern.

If Gano is our kicker this year I think I'm going to lose my mind.  There have been a lot of kicker aqusitions this offseason and I can only hope ours is coming.  The fact that he was not asked to restructure like Lee hopefully means the inevitable death knell after we get our man next month.

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TheRed    17,992
Just now, Nails said:

If Gano is our kicker this year I think I'm going to lose my mind.  There have been a lot of kicker aqusitions this offseason and I can only hope ours is coming.  The fact that he was not asked to restructure like Lee hopefully means the inevitable death knell after we get our man next month.

Gano basically has the highest cap hit of any kicker in the NFL right now. The contract was a big gamble, and I didn't understand why Gettleman went all in with him the way he did. Should have signed him to 2 years max. Instead now we're basically stuck with him. But, bup bup bup bup.

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Nails    1,164
3 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Gano basically has the highest cap hit of any kicker in the NFL right now. The contract was a big gamble, and I didn't understand why Gettleman went all in with him the way he did. Should have signed him to 2 years max. Instead now we're basically stuck with him. But, bup bup bup bup.

Everyone makes mistakes.  But we can't double down on it, either for my sanity or the team's success.

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KB_fan    12,051

Lots of talk about Gano.  

After the Bucs fiasco in drafting a K in the 2nd round last year, it almost seems ludicrous to draft a kicker (at least in the early rounds), but I'm curious.

Are there any kickers out there on the radar that any of you would like to see us draft - say in round 5 or below?

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TheRed    17,992
1 minute ago, Nails said:

Everyone makes mistakes.  But we can't double down on it, either for my sanity or the team's success.

I definitely like Gettleman, and approve of most of his moves, but our complacency with the kicker position should be a concern for all Panthers fans.

All I can do at this point is hope that it works out. I know people are basically blaming Gano's suckage last season on a nagging foot injury, but he's been missing basic kicks, and extra points all along. And some of those kicks in 2016 it wouldn't have mattered if he only had one foot and a peg leg, he was flat out shanking kicks. He's a good guy, but I fear we are simply putting off the inevitable at this point.

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Nails    1,164
11 minutes ago, KB_fan said:

Lots of talk about Gano.  

After the Bucs fiasco in drafting a K in the 2nd round last year, it almost seems ludicrous to draft a kicker (at least in the early rounds), but I'm curious.

Are there any kickers out there on the radar that any of you would like to see us draft - say in round 5 or below?

Florida State kickers.  No position and no school should be so avoided.  You think people would know by now.

 

I really don't care as long as it's not Gano.  He simply must go.  The Patriots let Vinatieri go for an unknown named Stephen Gostkowski out of Memphis.  In answer to your question, Zane Gonzalez is clearly worth a 5th if not 4th, and I'd MUCH rather have Dan Carpenter if we insist on a vet.

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davos    3,849

I'd say it's a carry.  I believe we have a better DL situation with a draft pick hopefully coming into the equation.  

The OL feels the same.  A question mark at LT even though we signed a guy to potentially be our long term answer.  RT looks to be Daryl Williams job pending more moves.  

Secondary is improved.  Tre is no longer a starter and we have 2 experienced at each spot with flexibility to draft a center fielder or box safety.  

I like our WR signings but that position is a carry as well.  

We've set ourselves to draft BPA this year better than last season so a few good draft picks could really thrust the team forward.   

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heel31ok    1,072
5 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

 

So far this offseason, and compared to the starting units in September of last season, have the Panthers gotten better, worse, or about the same?

 

In position to be better after the draft...

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Nails    1,164
19 minutes ago, TheRed said:

I definitely like Gettleman, and approve of most of his moves, but our complacency with the kicker position should be a concern for all Panthers fans.

All I can do at this point is hope that it works out. I know people are basically blaming Gano's suckage last season on a nagging foot injury, but he's been missing basic kicks, and extra points all along. And some of those kicks in 2016 it wouldn't have mattered if he only had one foot and a peg leg, he was flat out shanking kicks. He's a good guy, but I fear we are simply putting off the inevitable at this point.

His sympathy post and picture online as he was recovering from surgery was also a lame attempt at drumming up support from anyone with a clue.

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Easy answer.  Clearly better.

Bringing in some vets with plenty of gas left in the tank made us better.  We addressed every concern in Free Agency and the WR Corps got better just by giving KB more time to recover..

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JawnyBlaze    5,246

I think we're significantly better than post Norman pre draft last year.  And I expect our draft class to be significantly better than last year's (obviously our picks are higher and we have two 2nds).  And hopefully we don't spend our 1st this year on a bench warmer. 

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