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Jeremy Igo

Carolina Panthers biggest weakness as of today....

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We're in the best position to grab a future DE high but OT is the biggest weakness yet again. 

If Bolles or Ramczyk fall into the 20s, that may be our target in a trade up scenario. They're the only two guys I really see as potential LTs 

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I don't get the DE thing. I don't believe you can say that considering our line as a whole and individual rankings. Adding Peppers is a fairly big deal. 

I suppose if you have tunnel vision and only look at sacks...

Anyway, I suspect we'll add another edge rusher and tackle in the draft.

The biggest question mark in my opinion has to be at OT and WR. Compared to other positions, we just don't know what we have, but we know both were on the weak side last year. The fact that Benjamin may have outgained the entire receiving corps last season (yes, I'm being hypebolic, but you get my drift) is concerning, as is the condition of Oher and extremely spotty play of the tackles.

I don't see running back as a weakness as such, though it's time to infuse the ranks with some legitimate talent. And, as always, we're one injury away from being screwed at TE, but what else is new?

 

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Just now, top dawg said:

I don't get the DE thing. I don't believe you can say that considering our line as a whole and individual rankings. Adding Peppers is a fairly big deal. 

I suppose if you have tunnel vision and only look at sacks...

Anyway, I suspect we'll add another edge rusher and tackle in the draft.

The biggest question mark in my opinion has to be at OT and WR. Compared to other positions, we just don't know what we have, but we know both were on the weak side last year. The fact that Benjamin may have outgained the entire receiving corps last season is concerning, as is the condition of Oher and extremely spotty play of the tackles.

I don't see running back as a weakness as such, though it's time to infuse the ranks with some talent. And, as always, we're one injury away from being screwed at TE, but what else is new?

 

Right now, it is Johnson (under-performing for a while IMHO,) Addison (overachieving because he's been rotational,) Peppers (not a full time starter now,) Horton (rubber-banded with us, good against the run, but not a pass rusher,) Delaire (rotational, shown flashes but nothing in stone yet,) and Webster (meh.)

We need a good, young, solid starter, or at least two more rotational guys that bring different tools to the table. I still wish we'd look at Devin Taylor if we go the latter route.

In a dream scenario we could get Myles Garrett. In a good scenario, we'd get Solomon Thomas. In an okay scenario, we'd trade down in the first and get Barnett or one of the third tier DE/OLB hybrids that specialize in pass rush situations. Ultimately, I think we'll get a later round guy like Kpassagnon to roll the dice a bit and hope we can mold him into an every down starter.

But, we have a strong roster on paper, and DE is just the biggest weakness to me.

OT I think we have uncertainty in, only because the jury is out on what is gonna happen with Oher, and how Matt Kalil will pan out. I'm optimistic that Kalil will do well, so I don't think this trumps the DE need.

WR I think we're fine with. We signed two guys that I think will come in and take over the slot work immediately and who could actually push Funch a bit. I'd hope Benji has had a stern talking to by now and that he'll be ready to play again this year. We could take a gamble on a later round guy, but I think we're fine, especially considering that outside those top 4 (Benji, Funch, Johnson, Shephard) we still have Bersin, Byrd, and even Garrett that have familiarity with our system. Now, if Williams or Davis is BPA or happen to fall into our laps at 40, then, yeah, we'll take them.

Until we cut Dickson, we're okay at TE solely because Olsen is elite. If we have plans to cut Dickson or want to give him some competition, there are plenty of good ones that can be had in the third round (or first or second, depending on how the chips fall.)

SS is a need because I think the Adams signing was just a depth/vet/Boston insurance move and that we're seriously looking at getting younger with Jamal Adams if he's there in the first, or one of the later first/early second guys (Baker, Melifonwu.) This draft is stacked at S, though, so we could get one in the 5th or later that would be an upgrade/project for us.

RB depth we're okay with, but Stewart's deal expires after this season. Even if we don't cut him this year, I think most can agree, at this point, that Fozzy or CAP isn't the eventual starter. If a good RB prospect is on the board in the first three rounds, we'll take him.

LB depth is scarier to me than a lot of people here are letting on. We have TD (aging,) Luke (noggin',) and Shaq as our starters. Mayo is gonna be a good backup in the middle, and Norris and Blechen have shown promise. But we need more depth here pretty bad, and someone to groom as eventual starters (which, outside of Mayo, I don't know that we have.) I really think we could pick Reuben Foster, Hasaan Reddick, or Zach Cunningham if they slide a bit.

Outside of a couple unproven guys, we have nobody at FB. Sure it is a fading position in today's offenses, but our offense could use a good one in certain formations. We could take a late round flyer, or hope someone like Zach Line is still on the market after the draft.

Most of our biggest needs are needs due to depth or uncertainty, which is actually a good thing when you think about it.

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This question can be answered either CB/Safety or DE. If our defensive philosophy is going stay the same it's DE. DE is just patchwork and S will suffice if there is pressure. However, if we are just relying on patchwork, we need to strengthen the backside.

I would argue RB because after Stewart there is really no one that can carry the load but RB is more easily filled. Tackle is a huge hole on the other hand but I really feel Kalil is the answer, that is a hit or miss, absolute scenario though it's the biggest hole.

In order:

DE

LT

RB

S

K

This is based off philosophy more so than personal. I think we address DE and S in the draft...possibly RB, which leaves us with a hit or miss LT and a sub standard kicker...which isn't bad, actually pretty good going into the season.

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Just now, tiger7_88 said:

Wide receiver.

And it ain't even close.

I just think this fanbase is so accustomed to a trash WR corps that they're almost immune to seeing it as an issue.

We have one guy on the roster who has shown he can be an impact WR and even that guy is prone to drops, taking plays off, and padding stats in garbage time. I like KB, I'm just trying to be transparent here.

The rest of the WR roster? A former 2nd round pick who has shown very little, a couple of FAs who haven't done much, and UDFA JAGs. 

If we don't do something at this position, then once again we're going to be hoping that guys play well above what a reasonable person could expect. Maybe that'll work out, but it's a dangerous strategy.

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I think long term solutions at SS, DE, and OT are needed. Short term I would say the biggest weakness is a playmaker on the offense. Whether a RB, WR, or even a punt/kick returner, some spark is definitely needed!

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only considering roster spots (Shula needs to fukken go, and will hold this team back more than any player position), i would rank our team needs like so:

1 ) RB (most immediate need with current thin depth, JStew most likely done as a Panther by 2018, and a renewed focus on power running by the coaching staff)

2) DE or OT (The issues at these two spots, while different, make the need equal in my eyes. Aging players at DE = insurance and depth at OT in the hierarchy of needs in my mind)

3) TE or speed WR (TE would complement Greg in the short term, and hopefully provide his heir in a few seasons when Greg hangs them up, either position would add new  facets to our offense that would allow new schemes and hopefully some raw talent, like speed/separation/blocking/etc, that we didnt have before. might also add a returner for special teams)

4) Strong Safety (Mike Adams will be a good stop gap, but we really need the answer here soon)

5) Kicker (Gano used to be a reliable kicker, but is a few seasons removed from that now. need an upgrade at some point)

6) CB (would be for competition. but perhaps we land a stud that would give us 2-3 starting quality CBs within a few seasons)

7) OG/DT/LB (all positions that need insurance and competition)

 

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I'd argue that DE was most certainly improved this offseason. We lost no one and gained Peppers. But it's still one of our biggest needs.  Up there with a RT, RB and SS.  Williams could be the answer at RT but I dunno. And we need replacements at RB and SS.  Stewart and Adams shouldn't be the starters next year, same as anything we have at DE. 

Edit: and yea, we STILL need a serious talent infusion at WR. Need a new #1, with KB as our #2 and a new guy to be our slot WR unless one of the WRs added this year step up into that role. 

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36 minutes ago, Bronn said:

Most of our biggest needs are needs due to depth or uncertainty, which is actually a good thing when you think about it

Well said.

I tend to agree with most of what you wrote.

In terms of my overall anxiety about the roster, I'm still most anxious re: offensive tackles until we see how Kalil looks and whether Oher is healthy.  But I don't have high expectations to solve this problem in the draft.

Going into the draft, I agree we need a young stud DE who we can begin to develop and train up behind Pep & CJ.

I also would like us to groom another safety under Adams.  If we're gonna play a 36-37 year old, let's maximize his experience and use him as a player - coach.

BUT, I actually feel our needs are more acute at offense.  I'm high on the scenario to draft a TE - RB combo and also strengthen our talent at WR.  Losing Ted Ginn worries me.  I like what I see of CJ#2 and Shepard on paper, but I'm not going to count on them as anything more than potential depth right now.

I want 3 skill players on offense badly.  We need an injection of talent on offense.  The Defense needs are slightly lower priority in my mind, though I understand the reasons why we might draft a potentially elite DE or S like Thomas or Adams at #8 if they're there, even if our holes on offense seem a bit bigger.

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12 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

We lost no one and gained Peppers.

Well, we lost Ealy...  Is that the same as no one?!  Ouch.

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