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Draft Analyst Ethan Young: S Jamal Adams Not Worth Even A First Rounder?

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2 minutes ago, KB_fan said:

Thanks for posting some of Ethan Young's tweets.  He's an interesting guy to follow.  But I confess a lot of what he analyzes is a bit above my paygrade.  I'm not great at watching film and identifying a player's strengths & weaknesses, at least in isolation...  I can see when a unit is or isn't playing well, but trying to identify the whys is tough for me...

So much still to learn!  Draft season is fun in terms of comparing different analysts' takes on top prospects and trying to see whether I can spot what they're talking about!

With our moves in free agency, safety is less of an urgent need for me so I've not been paying too much attention to the commentary on Jamal Adams..  Still hoping we go either DE or Offensive Skill Player at #8.

I bet we can come up with an amazing stat based analysis for combine measures. I did one for WR. I would have to dig through my rubbage

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Jamal Adams leadership skills alone are first rounder worthy. He was the first true freshman team captain in LSU history.


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Just now, countryboi said:

Jamal Adams leadership skills alone are first rounder worthy. He was the first true freshman team captain in LSU history.


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Damn I did not know. Fun fact of the day.

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I've only seen video clips but Hooker seems like more of a ball-hawk where Adams seemed more physical. If Adams' physicality is of the Tres Boston style that's just flinging his body and corkscrewing off the runner then I'd rather not. He's been my top choice until now but I'm easily influenced I guess.

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Wouldn't rule out Hooker at 8. Coleman is very very solid and we recently extended him but he's not elite, not even close in his all around game, and is up there in age. Hooker would offer us an elite Earl Thomas like presence in our secondary and a young one on a cheapish contract for 5 years if we grabbed him, so doubt having Coleman would prevent that.

But would certainly bet on a top DE or Fournette over him. But if DG's preferred DEs and Fournette are gone would not be surprised to see Hooker. Think he's a better prospect at a tougher position to find an elite player at than Adams. Though I do like Adams a lot too and would be good with him at 8.

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1 hour ago, Saca312 said:

He argues Malik Hooker is the better overall safety:

 

Jamal Adams is a much better tackler than Malik Hooker. If Hooker let's up a catch he better learn how to drag down the receiver. That won't happen right away because honestly Hooker is one of the worst tacklers I've ever seen. If he can develop that Ed Reed presence of making QBs scared to throw it on him or even a Earl Thomas, he'll be worth a number 2 overall. I'd take Adams before Hooker honestly. Good luck to you if you're name is Hooker and you let up a catch underneath to Julio Jones, he'll make you look foolish as fug.

 

This guy should just stick to his day job, he sucks at analyzing talent. So he picked a couple of mistakes to highlight what he thinks Adams' weaknesses are. I bet that you can find more positive film than negative. Even more than Hooker, and that's saying a lot. 

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I'm reevaluating Adams too, I just don't think he has pro bowl or all pro upside. What's his ceiling? An above average starter? Shouldn't we want more? His best pro comparison is Kam Chancellor. Kam is good, but I expect a players best case scenario to be better than that. 

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Just now, emhoward said:

I'm reevaluating Adams too, I just don't think he has pro bowl or all pro upside. What's his ceiling? An above average starter? Shouldn't we want more? His best pro comparison is Kam Chancellor. Kam is good, but I expect a players best case scenario to be better than that. 

His comparison has been around a poor man's Weddle when you consider he's not the enforcing type, and even that is a slight stretch.

He doesn't contain the solid tackling consistency you want to see out of your strong safety. He does flash potential, but Ethan does bring a valid point that he also has plenty of bad from where the good came from.

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2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I like Adams, but it blows my mind that half the Huddle would seemingly take him over Fournette.

I did it at first, but Adams is not an investment on defense worth taking over a offensive weapon like LF7 to help Cam.  The only way I would flip if it was some injury concerns. 

 

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1 hour ago, Salisburysean98 said:

Jamal Adams is a much better tackler than Malik Hooker. If Hooker let's up a catch he better learn how to drag down the receiver. That won't happen right away because honestly Hooker is one of the worst tacklers I've ever seen. If he can develop that Ed Reed presence of making QBs scared to throw it on him or even a Earl Thomas, he'll be worth a number 2 overall. I'd take Adams before Hooker honestly. Good luck to you if you're name is Hooker and you let up a catch underneath to Julio Jones, he'll make you look foolish as fug.

 

This guy should just stick to his day job, he sucks at analyzing talent. So he picked a couple of mistakes to highlight what he thinks Adams' weaknesses are. I bet that you can find more positive film than negative. Even more than Hooker, and that's saying a lot. 

Thank god SalisburySean98 isn't our GM. We would be fuged

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