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Draft Analyst Ethan Young: S Jamal Adams Not Worth Even A First Rounder?

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1 hour ago, Saca312 said:

He argues Malik Hooker is the better overall safety:

 

Jamal Adams is a much better tackler than Malik Hooker. If Hooker let's up a catch he better learn how to drag down the receiver. That won't happen right away because honestly Hooker is one of the worst tacklers I've ever seen. If he can develop that Ed Reed presence of making QBs scared to throw it on him or even a Earl Thomas, he'll be worth a number 2 overall. I'd take Adams before Hooker honestly. Good luck to you if you're name is Hooker and you let up a catch underneath to Julio Jones, he'll make you look foolish as fug.

 

This guy should just stick to his day job, he sucks at analyzing talent. So he picked a couple of mistakes to highlight what he thinks Adams' weaknesses are. I bet that you can find more positive film than negative. Even more than Hooker, and that's saying a lot. 

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emhoward    609

I'm reevaluating Adams too, I just don't think he has pro bowl or all pro upside. What's his ceiling? An above average starter? Shouldn't we want more? His best pro comparison is Kam Chancellor. Kam is good, but I expect a players best case scenario to be better than that. 

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Saca312    14,166
Just now, emhoward said:

I'm reevaluating Adams too, I just don't think he has pro bowl or all pro upside. What's his ceiling? An above average starter? Shouldn't we want more? His best pro comparison is Kam Chancellor. Kam is good, but I expect a players best case scenario to be better than that. 

His comparison has been around a poor man's Weddle when you consider he's not the enforcing type, and even that is a slight stretch.

He doesn't contain the solid tackling consistency you want to see out of your strong safety. He does flash potential, but Ethan does bring a valid point that he also has plenty of bad from where the good came from.

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CPF4LIFE    3,727
2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I like Adams, but it blows my mind that half the Huddle would seemingly take him over Fournette.

I did it at first, but Adams is not an investment on defense worth taking over a offensive weapon like LF7 to help Cam.  The only way I would flip if it was some injury concerns. 

 

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1 hour ago, Salisburysean98 said:

Jamal Adams is a much better tackler than Malik Hooker. If Hooker let's up a catch he better learn how to drag down the receiver. That won't happen right away because honestly Hooker is one of the worst tacklers I've ever seen. If he can develop that Ed Reed presence of making QBs scared to throw it on him or even a Earl Thomas, he'll be worth a number 2 overall. I'd take Adams before Hooker honestly. Good luck to you if you're name is Hooker and you let up a catch underneath to Julio Jones, he'll make you look foolish as fug.

 

This guy should just stick to his day job, he sucks at analyzing talent. So he picked a couple of mistakes to highlight what he thinks Adams' weaknesses are. I bet that you can find more positive film than negative. Even more than Hooker, and that's saying a lot. 

Thank god SalisburySean98 isn't our GM. We would be fuged

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sanjay_rajput    1,992
3 hours ago, Saca312 said:

He argues Malik Hooker is the better overall safety:

 

Malik Hooker is better fit for the Panthers with Coleman and the LB corp. 

But again Fournete / OJ Howard > Hooker 

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Panthers8969    743

Interesting you posted this, Ethan gives a lot of great insight and just won some up and coming draft analyst award too. He certainly made me rethink my opinion of adams

I'd still be fine with him but i really want obi in r2 or baker safety wise

LEONARD MOFO FOURNETTE @ 8

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Panthers8969    743
2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think every NFL prospect is going to have more good film than bad. That's kind of a given.

lol right

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Panthers8969    743
3 hours ago, YoungPanthers89 said:

Random analytics guy with 5000 followers says what

well yeah, thats a good thing. How many followers does Mel Kipper have and how good is he? theres a strong negative correlation between followers and knowledge 

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Saca312    14,166
3 hours ago, YoungPanthers89 said:

Random analytics guy with 5000 followers says what

That random analytics guy just recently won the best scouting award from an event held by the NFL at the combine from what I believe. He knows his stuff.

After he predicted Bradberry to be a stud, I think he's quite credible in his reports.

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2 hours ago, Confined9991 said:

Thank god SalisburySean98 isn't our GM. We would be fuged

Yeah I bet you just know tons more than I do don't you?

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Manos    569
Malik Hooker is better fit for the Panthers with Coleman and the LB corp. 

But again Fournete / OJ Howard > Hooker 

My biggest concern with Hooker is he takes some of the worst angles I have ever seen a safety take in my life. I mean some of them are Sherrod Martin bad(or worse), he just got away with it in college because he is a really good athlete, that won't work in the NFL.

 

Now I will acknowledge Hooker has more upside than Adams but his floor is much lower. He is a boom/bust player where as Adams will likely be a starter in this league for a decade even if he never makes a probowl.

 

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Marguide    3,304
3 hours ago, emhoward said:

I'm reevaluating Adams too, I just don't think he has pro bowl or all pro upside. What's his ceiling? An above average starter? Shouldn't we want more? His best pro comparison is Kam Chancellor. Kam is good, but I expect a players best case scenario to be better than that. 

Kam Chancellor?

Give me a pick at 8 that turns out as good as Kam and I would be a happy camper.

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