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A Closer Look at Wk1 & Wk2 Drive Charts - clearly reveals Panthers Defensive DOMINANCE

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I've been playing around this evening with a new way of charting / visualizing the drive charts in each week's game book.  

In the past I've only ever posted tables with text, but now I'm trying to create tables (charts) that more clearly show the length of each drive, starting & ending position, etc.

See what you think.  I'd find comments / constructive criticism helpful.

I'll share a few analytical thoughts about what the drive charts show a bit later in this thread.

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 Yea moving the ball well doesn't ammount to much usually if you cant score TDs. It might fly against lesser talented/young/inexperienced teams like 49ers and Bills but as the season goes on and we play teams that are capable of scoring alot of points on anyone (Patriots, Lions, in near future) just kicking field goals wont be enough to win. Defense isn't going to be perfect every game and Matt Ryan, Drew Brees has shredded them with regularity in the recent past. 

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good analysis. looking at the games it felt like we moved the ball generally well to the opponents 30 yeard line but then  our drives sputtered. I will say this i understand our team favors being rush first but i hate how it looks like we struggle to get 1st down. Feels like getting a first down for us for majority of rons tenure here feels like it takes everything we have to get a 1st down. Except for 2011, 2013, and 2015. Just my opinion

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1 minute ago, Hoenheim said:

 Yea moving the ball well doesn't ammount to much usually if you cant score TDs. It might fly against lesser talented/young/inexperienced teams like 49ers and Bills but as the season goes on and we play teams that are capable of scoring alot of points on anyone (Patriots, Lions, in near future) just kicking field goals wont be enough to win. Defense isn't going to be perfect every game and Matt Ryan, Drew Brees has shredded them with regularity in the recent past. 

Sure.  I totally agree.  But I don't think the offense is QUITE as woeful as some are making it out to be.

The main thing about moving the ball as we've done is time of possession...

The Panthers have had 9 or 10 drives of 3 minutes or longer.   6 of those drives are 5 minutes or longer if I remember correctly...  That limits our opponents and helps our defense.  So sometimes just keeping the chains moving CAN be helpful even if it doesn't result in a TD.

I'm hopeful though we'll start to see the TDs start multiplying.

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Didn't want to make a thread on this but it is pretty interesting... Here's the defense rankings so far this year, sorted by yards allowed/game:

 

1 Carolina 393 196.5 273 136.5 120 60.0 6 3.0
2 Buffalo 469 234.5 354 177.0 115 57.5 21 10.5
3 Pittsburgh 474 237.0 326 163.0 148 74.0 27 13.5
4 Denver 517 258.5 413 206.5 104 52.0 38 19.0
5 Cincinnati 534 267.0 209 104.5 325 162.5 33 16.5
6 Houston 575 287.5 338 169.0 237 118.5 38 19.0
7 Detroit 578 289.0 471 235.5 107 53.5 33 16.5
8 Green Bay 589 294.5 358 179.0 231 115.5 43 21.5
9 Jacksonville 593 296.5 321 160.5 272 136.0 44 22.0
10 San Francisco 599 299.5 352 176.0 247 123.5 35 17.5
11 Baltimore 607 303.5 437 218.5 170 85.0 10 5.0
12 Philadelphia 608 304.0 432 216.0 176 88.0 44 22.0
13 LA Rams 610 305.0 306 153.0 304 152.0 36 18.0
14 Dallas 613 306.5 400 200.0 213 106.5 45 22.5
15 Seattle 618 309.0 375 187.5 243 121.5 26 13.0
16 Tampa Bay 310 310.0 290 290.0 20 20.0 7 7.0
17 Oakland 621 310.5 400 200.0 221 110.5 36 18.0
18 Cleveland 627 313.5 456 228.0 171 85.5 45 22.5
19 Arizona 633 316.5 475 237.5 158 79.0 48 24.0
20 NY Giants 649 324.5 382 191.0 267 133.5 43 21.5
21 LA Chargers 657 328.5 406 203.0 251 125.5 43 21.5
22 Atlanta 668 334.0 484 242.0 184 92.0 40 20.0
23 Tennessee 669 334.5 461 230.5 208 104.0 42 21.0
24 Minnesota 679 339.5 517 258.5 162 81.0 45 22.5
25 Chicago 683 341.5 502 251.0 181 90.5 52 26.0
26 Washington 688 344.0 538 269.0 150 75.0 50 25.0
27 Miami 367 367.0 323 323.0 44 44.0 17 17.0
28 Indianapolis 762 381.0 616 308.0 146 73.0 62 31.0
29 Kansas City 777 388.5 546 273.0 231 115.5 47 23.5
30 NY Jets 818 409.0 448 224.0 370 185.0 66 33.0
31 New England 966 483.0 700 350.0 266 133.0 62 31.0
32 New Orleans 1025 512.5 777 388.5 248 124.0 65 32.5

 

Obviously a small sample size with only 2 weeks and other teams haven't played the Niners and Bills, but there are 3 outliers. One is us allowing under 200 yards per game. The other two? Our next two opponents, on the opposite end of the spectrum, both allowing around 500 yards per game, with the other closest team the Jets at closer to 400 yards per game...

 

Early to be looking at these and making much of them but it is pretty interesting. Figured I'd add it in here.

 

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whoa...good stuff!

going to take a little bit to digest, but i love what this defense is doing for sure.

i think the offense can get there. it's just a matter of getting the ball over that line instead of having to resort to FGs.

Looking at the schedule, we may have gotten through the hardest part of the schedule regarding defense. the lions might give us a hard time and still kind of early to know much about the bucs, but i think the offense should have an easier time putting points on the board.

plus, cam and the offense are at least a month behind every other team because of the lack of work he was able to get in with the receivers and the OL during training camp. we'll be hitting our stride soon i think.

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7 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

Didn't want to make a thread on this but it is pretty interesting... Here's the defense rankings so far this year, sorted by yards allowed/game:

 

1 Carolina 393 196.5 273 136.5 120 60.0 6 3.0
2 Buffalo 469 234.5 354 177.0 115 57.5 21 10.5
3 Pittsburgh 474 237.0 326 163.0 148 74.0 27 13.5
4 Denver 517 258.5 413 206.5 104 52.0 38 19.0
5 Cincinnati 534 267.0 209 104.5 325 162.5 33 16.5
6 Houston 575 287.5 338 169.0 237 118.5 38 19.0
7 Detroit 578 289.0 471 235.5 107 53.5 33 16.5
8 Green Bay 589 294.5 358 179.0 231 115.5 43 21.5
9 Jacksonville 593 296.5 321 160.5 272 136.0 44 22.0
10 San Francisco 599 299.5 352 176.0 247 123.5 35 17.5
11 Baltimore 607 303.5 437 218.5 170 85.0 10 5.0
12 Philadelphia 608 304.0 432 216.0 176 88.0 44 22.0
13 LA Rams 610 305.0 306 153.0 304 152.0 36 18.0
14 Dallas 613 306.5 400 200.0 213 106.5 45 22.5
15 Seattle 618 309.0 375 187.5 243 121.5 26 13.0
16 Tampa Bay 310 310.0 290 290.0 20 20.0 7 7.0
17 Oakland 621 310.5 400 200.0 221 110.5 36 18.0
18 Cleveland 627 313.5 456 228.0 171 85.5 45 22.5
19 Arizona 633 316.5 475 237.5 158 79.0 48 24.0
20 NY Giants 649 324.5 382 191.0 267 133.5 43 21.5
21 LA Chargers 657 328.5 406 203.0 251 125.5 43 21.5
22 Atlanta 668 334.0 484 242.0 184 92.0 40 20.0
23 Tennessee 669 334.5 461 230.5 208 104.0 42 21.0
24 Minnesota 679 339.5 517 258.5 162 81.0 45 22.5
25 Chicago 683 341.5 502 251.0 181 90.5 52 26.0
26 Washington 688 344.0 538 269.0 150 75.0 50 25.0
27 Miami 367 367.0 323 323.0 44 44.0 17 17.0
28 Indianapolis 762 381.0 616 308.0 146 73.0 62 31.0
29 Kansas City 777 388.5 546 273.0 231 115.5 47 23.5
30 NY Jets 818 409.0 448 224.0 370 185.0 66 33.0
31 New England 966 483.0 700 350.0 266 133.0 62 31.0
32 New Orleans 1025 512.5 777 388.5 248 124.0 65 32.5

 

Obviously a small sample size with only 2 weeks and other teams haven't played the Niners and Bills, but there are 3 outliers. One is us allowing under 200 yards per game. The other two? Our next two opponents, on the opposite end of the spectrum, both allowing around 500 yards per game, with the other closest team the Jets at closer to 400 yards per game...

 

Early to be looking at these and making much of them but it is pretty interesting. Figured I'd add it in here.

 

yeah, i was just looking at something similar to that...mainly points, but this schedule is looking pretty favorable for our offense. like you said, it's still really early, but i'm not hating that schedule. it will probably get easier and aside from maybe a couple hiccups it should be pretty good for us.

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We should have scored at least 2 TDs last game. The drop by Benjamin and Cam overthrowing CMC. Also I know we are a run first team but when its 1st down and we're inside the opponents 10 probably every team is daring us to run up the gut and Shula does it about 9 times out of 10 and do it again on 2nd down is kinda frustrating. I'd like to see them get a little more creative with the early down playcalling in the red zone. 

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